If I were president..

To say that 911 was a plot to drag us into the middle east is the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Really? you believe that? you believe that our leader wanted that to happen so he "had a reason"? that's ***************ing ridiculous and ignorant.

Nate

Nate, tell me with a educated reason why he ran those planes into those towers, he was smart enough to knock them down and he sure the hell is smart enough to know its an act of war

here is another good example Khadafy and Noriega, America wanted both of them real bad, with khadafy we sent a little love tap over there without permission from congress....never heard from him again, he settled right down
sent some green berets into Panama...boom...handled
why not the same treatment for Sadaam and Osama ?

nates78ski wrote: To say that 911 was a plot to drag us into the middle east is the most asinine thing I've ever heard. Really? you believe that? you believe that our leader wanted that to happen so he "had a reason"? that's ***************ing ridiculous and ignorant. Nate

I know better than to jump in to turbulent waters, but damn Nate, you are 100% on point.

Sometimes things are just the way they appear on the surface. Simply listen to how damn convoluted the 'evidence' is as put forth by any conspiracy crowd.

My simple stance is not born from ignorance, just acceptance of what is out of my control.

I love to argue with you guy's, think out of the box once in a while, was it a plot to pull us in? i dont know, was it a plot not to? you dont know. I dont pull information from talking heads at 6 and 11. just last week a guy from Belgium asked why my parking lot was empty from a satelite view...if i would of said this 5 or so years ago, you guy's would say i was as crazy as charlie manson. the point is these wars that we tangle in are not about humanity, we didnt have to send troops into a dictator led country, we put a laser on the building where his boys were hiding out from a control room and that was the end of that, no troops involved. with Osama these guys have to communicate wherever they are hiding either by cell phone or by a satelite phone, seeing that afghanistan isnt in the information age its not that hard to locate a signal, he is sick and needs dialysis which needs power and chances are it is powered by a generator or batteries, the generater will make heat signatures easily picked out by satelite, or mule packs with batteries also picked off by satelite, point is they know exactly where he is and I would say our government is waiting for him to die naturally to continue good relations with SA
sometimes things are the way they appear but again sometimes they are not

BTW, i am for the fair tax

eric lavine wrote: Nate, tell me with a educated reason why he ran those planes into those towers, he was smart enough to knock them down and he sure the hell is smart enough to know its an act of war

I dont think we can even begin to understand the thought process behind what these extremists do, they don't think like we do. & of course it was an act of war, ie. part of the reason we're over there right now...

Nate

be intelligent with an intelligent answer and tell the class why we are in Iraq and why we are in Afghanistan.

Eric, ask Kristof what the 'new' most popular name for baby boys is in Europe as a whole.

Then try to figure why I'm bringing it up!

Nate, i go to the va hospital once or twice a week because we have an account with them, why is it that thier version is always different from Diane Sawyers? a close friend of mine is currently visiting because of Agent orange, 2 months ago he noticed his hands shaking and he just stopped in here less than i hour ago, not making any fun but after he left one of the guy's said he is shaking to the point where i thought he was dancing. its still in his blood, and they diagnosed him with Parkinsons, everybody knows its agent orange or is it, that must be a conspiracy too.
I talk to these guy's all the time from Vietnam on up untill today. I take the time to listen to them and become friends with many of them and you know what....I dont think they are bull ***************ting me the way Diane Sawyer is bull***************ting you

it means that things are not always what they seem, I refuse to watch the news, people hear what they want to hear even though it may not be true. If you have people that think as Osama thinks dont you think we may have some of the same personalities in Higher government? Generals are chompin at the bit to go to war cause thats thier job, and in know way can one man make decisions as President Bush does, he may be talked into things that he doesnt want to do by top aids and even people above him that really push the worlds buttons, whether you like it or not he has to answer to someone too.
the point is being young as you are keep an open mind and dont always believe what you read because it is a form of propaganda. these vets have no reason to lie to me and can look me straight in the face and tell me whats going on and i tend to believe them after all they are the witnesses of it and they not getting information from the nightly news

outside looking in, you can usually see more.
your check book at home is a business, the place you work is a business and the people we pay our taxes too is a business and thats how i think the government is run, at home you eat the beef that will out date first or it goes bad and you have to throw it out....same exact principle

88 Nautique wrote: By the way, happy "D Day" to all. Lets not forget those who died to keep us free.

I hear Americans are still appreciated in Normandy...maybe a little more so than in other areas.

My favorite radio guy played Churchhill's prayer this morning.......and I miss my Grandfather.

My father, who was in WWII, would disagree with you. The number one reason would be defense of our allies, our nation and our way of life.

By the way, happy "D Day" to all. Lets not forget those who died to keep us free.
Kurt[/QUOTE]

Amen 88'... Give our regards to your father and thank him while you're at it.. Same for all you vets..!!!! God Bless..

Moj'

BuffaloBFN wrote: Eric, ask Kristof what the 'new' most popular name for baby boys is in Europe as a whole. Then try to figure why I'm bringing it up!

For those who are still in doubt: Muhammed...

Kristof wrote: BuffaloBFN wrote: Eric, ask Kristof what the 'new' most popular name for baby boys is in Europe as a whole. Then try to figure why I'm bringing it up! For those who are still in doubt: Muhammed...

2 points for Kristof! Now let's see if Eric gets the other half?!!?

Kristof, I'll ask you in a day or 2 if he doesn't bite.