Velvet Drive...Not so Velvety...

Hello All. Finally I have taken the time to register on this fantastic site. I have been reading the posts for years and have learned alot...even bought a boat listed on the site.
I currently own 2 Correct Crafts. a '93 Ski Nautique and an '88 2001. The question I have today is one I could not find any information on using the search function.

The question relates to the Velvet drive in the '88 2001 (~650 hours on the boat). When shifting from neutral to forward, forward does not engage until the past the detent. When shifting from neutral to reverse, reverse engages before the detent. I tried disconnecting the shifter cable and shifting directly at the transmission and got the same result. It seems as if the points where foreward and reverse do engage are offset about 10 degrees foreward from where they should engage?? does that make sense?? I noticed this problem near the end of last season and didn't think much of it as the only issue is sometimes a hard shift (clunk) into reverse if I don't move the lever very delicately. Anyway, I'm posting this now because I had nothing better to think about on my long drive last weekend and I really want to know what's wrong and fix it. Does anyone know what could be the problem??

thanks for your help. here are the prerequisite photos of boat, girl, and girl & boat.

Welcome to the site Nick. Eric should chime in soon to give you a tranny assessment. In the mean time, see if you can get those pictures up.

cause ya know we love pictures!

there's a couple of other fellow on here up in your neck of the woods too.

Welcome MI-nick! I just fixed your photos. FYI - The system doesn't like brackets '(' or ')' in file names. It takes them out in the link. I simply renamed your files on the server.

You're all set. I encourage you to also add yourself to the Diaries


-Keith

thanks keith. you probably don't remember, but last spring i emailed you regarding the '88 2001 shown above. the boat was listed here and i was having trouble contacting the seller by email. i emailed you and you gave me the guys phone number. anyway, i ended up buying the boat so thanks alot!!

What?! No comments from J "Hugh Hefner" Bear yet? Must be slowing down in his old age.

Terp wrote: What?! No comments from J "Hugh Hefner" Bear yet? Must be slowing down in his old age.

I was thinking that!

86BFN wrote: Terp wrote: What?! No comments from J "Hugh Hefner" Bear yet? Must be slowing down in his old age. I was thinking that!

Way too early in the day for him,I think he's part owl

I was going to suggest that maybe he's not up from his nap yet,
but I didn't want him to think I was insinuating that he's getting old.   

Eric, may be you should change your signature to:
First Check oil level, check throttle linkage, check iddle RPM's...now how can I help you???"

the clunk may be damper related which is also a wearable item, you should have nice positive engagements with a properly working tran.
a good way to understand these transmissions is:

you have a pool with a cover on it, at the bottem of the pool is a 5" hole and it is leaking. at the top is a 10" water pipe to fill it, obviously the 10" water fill will overcome the 5" hole and fill the pool rapidly and start to put pressure on the cover (that acts as a piston)

now if you have any problems with the 10" fill pipe such as the pump is worn, it is leaking at the connection...you get the point... the pool will not fill as fast or the pool will not build pressure and push the cover up.

its the same theory as a transmission, and thats how you think about it to troubleshoot the trans. if you were looking for a quick fix I dont think you will find one. the thoughts are out there that if the pump is bad you can slap one on and be down the road, well true to a point, but what about the metal thats missing in the pump? it also stays in the trans

the revesre circuit is straight forward, no bushings to go through nothing spinning, oil goes from the valve straight to the front cover where the piston is and is pretty fail safe. the cavity is always full of oil and it does not take much to apply the reverse piston unlike the forward piston. it will go into gear early if you shift the lever slowly because the ports are starting to line up, they are designed to be shifted quickly not slowly as you are doing, you are "feathering it like a clutch pedal" and its not designed to do so. when you detent that lever it will go into gear positively or something is wrong

Nice glass and ass you got there.

Uhhh....I just woke up...holy crap.

Actually 86BFN felt either bad for me or thought maybe I was just outa it...anyhow he took mercy on me and sent me a personal e-mail to wake me up.

Sure are glad to have ya here Mi.

I kinda like how the new guys are figuring out this site.

Purple just might be my new favorite color...never liked it on a boat before but I see it in a whole new light


john

I thought i was the pro at changing topics, does photo shop remove?

anyways another transmission lesson....please dispute.....OIL PUMPS DO NOT CREATE PRESSURE
and keeping that in mind you can further troubleshoot a trans. explanation will follow

might be a compination of both, dampner and cable adjustment. If as Allen stated the revs are going up slightly before it engages reverse that would be a cable issue. If when you removed the cable from the lever arm and moved it manually and it didn't change RPM but clunked then that would most likely be a dampner plate issue, now if it shifted fine then you have a cable adjustment issue.