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MI-nick
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when i removed the cable from the lever arm and shifted manually I still had the clunk and didn't notice and increase in RPM.
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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79nautique
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when it is attached do you get an increase in RPM? if so then you do need to tweek the cables adjustment but replacing the dampner plate is what it's going to take to get rid of the clunk, or it's something else inside the tranny and it needs rebuilt.
regardless it sounds like it needs pulled and inspected and if the plate is bad you should see it visually once it is removed. |
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81nautique
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Well it was worth a shot, but we turn you back over to the tranny doctor. |
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You canβt change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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MI-nick
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chris,
i don't recall and increase with the cable attached...but that was a while ago. in the spring i will definately pull the tranny off and check the dampner (damper??). i'm considering having it rebuilt just for piece of mind... |
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eric lavine
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no one is going to bite at the Oil pumps dont create pressure comment?
he did say he disconnected the linkage at the trans and tried shifting with the same results. sometimes when you do pull the dampner it will look as if there is no damage, common mistake if you dont replace and you still have the noise, the springs will weaken and transfer the noise or clunk, replace and that should repair the clunk problem. Now you need to put a gauge in the port where the temp sending unit is and take the readings, they should be equal in forward as they are in reverse. and the gauge needle should move quickly to full pressure, the same is true to the prior statement..equal for both circuits, no lag pressure charts (and they dont lie) neutral 600rpm's 115psi to 135psi reverse 600 rpm's 120 to 140 2000 rpms 125 to 160 3500 not used, forward 600 rpm 115 to 140 2000 rpms 125 to 160 3500 rpm's 135 to 180 pressures should be checked at 140 degrees if they are not within these ranges or your shift is lagging, there is an internal problem with the trans, typically about 30 percent of Borg Warner failures are snapped reverse clutch plates and the 2 main reasons they snap are: 1-torsional problem..engine miss, bad damper,to high of a shift 2- plates are made from brass, to alleviate the brass problem, i use a steel hubbed reverse plate thats why I always mention if anyone can, switching to a 10-17-003 or 004, it utilizes 2 reverse clutch plates instead of 1 like the AS1 series but....they still snap |
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MI-nick
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i'll bite on the comment...oil pumps only circulated oil...the pressure is built up by increased oil flow to a closed volume...i don't know what i'm talking about...
maybe i'll replace the damper in the spring and then check the pressure. temp sending unit on the trans?? where is that?? then again, given my delayed foreward shift, what are the chances that i'm going to find forward pressure out of spec?? if chances are good, i'd rather just have it rebuilt and be done with it. can you give me ballpark cost on the rebuild?? thanks again for all your input. |
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eric lavine
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750.00 ish
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eric lavine
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you are right about the oil pump, oil pumps provide flow, restrictions create pressure, if the internal restrictions have to much clearance then you will have a psi loss,
its helpful when troubleshooting |
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MI-nick
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alright, i'll think about this for the next 2 months and decide what to do. I may be driving down your way in march...only a 3 hour drive...
also, emily appreciates all the "positive feedback"... |
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MI-nick
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also again, where is the best place to get a new damper plate??
thank you, thank you |
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eric lavine
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which one do you have?
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jbear
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Thanks Adam..you are a pal.
And you Nick are one lucky dude..as are many of us on here. These boats seem to attract smokin' hot ladies. john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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MI-nick
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71C & 351W |
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MI-nick
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two more for ya...I am a lucky dude... |
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eric lavine
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I have a feeling they dont know your posting thier pics
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eric lavine
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oh man the girl on American idol had less clothes on then that lol
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MI-nick
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it's my wife. she said it was ok
so, where is the best place to get a new damper plate?? Ski DIM?? |
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8122pbrainard
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Nick, Eric has the best prices on the dampner and it will be the high quality Sachs. I just went to link his site (Fantastic Finnish Marine in our link section) but his site must be down. |
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jbear
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You're kidding...this thread is about your damper plate?
john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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86BFN
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Thanks for the reminder jbear. I was thinking it was about "Smokin' Hot Trophy Wifes" Nick you're a lucky dude! |
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jbear
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Me too! john |
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"Loud pipes save lives"
AdamT sez "I'm Canadian and a beaver lover myself"... |
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MI-nick
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sorry for the confusion. i was trying to bribe you guys for information
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eric lavine
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keep bribing
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kapla
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I agree with you eric!!! |
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86BFN
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Two more pictures and we'll answer the next question! LOL
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eric lavine
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summer is right around the corner, we need pics to hold us over....were all family here
Steve I must say, those Hydro's are a fine piece of equipment, right up there, if not eye to eye |
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MI-nick
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you guys will probably like this link. if you look closely, you might see a member's boat on there...sorry to get off topic Lots of Good Photos
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86BFN
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thread jack:
Eric, I love the Hyrodyne, It's a keeper even with the BFN. The bowtie sealed the deal! I've gotten 13 great years out of it so far. I'm thinking of treating it to a set of vortec heads and intake. Can you tell me will I have to change the exaust manifolds with the swap I'd like a set of hyteck's but I would have to wait longer for the swap if I have to change now. $$$ |
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86BFN
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Oh Yea! thanks Nick. that should do it right Eric! Next question..... I really should visit other sites besides this on once in a while..... NA (can't wait till jbear see this ) |
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backfoot100
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Off topic!!! Are you freakin' kiddin' me?????? That's awesome!!!!!! |
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