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    Posted: September-29-2009 at 5:44pm
Anybody have one of these? Thoughts?

What years were they built? What hull is under the 98 models?

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you can find the info looking on the brochures on the reference section..from that you can find they were introduced on 1997 as the sn176, then in the 1998 model they offered the sn176 and an air version called air tique, and in 1999 only the air tique version was available...
as for the hull no clue...
I guess Godfather will know more about them...
I recall they were said to have a very good wake for wakeboarding...
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I dont have one, but Ive been in and driven Kyle's (66Skylark) 176. He's got the GT40- its a quick little boat! Flirting with 50 by the Airguides, and I believe it. I didnt ski it, but the wake looks identical to my '90. All the 176's ride on the same hull, which I think is based off the 90-96 Ski Nautique. Its actually surprisingly roomy on the inside. CC shortened up the deck even more than normal to fit everything into a 2' smaller package. You cant get between the motorbox and drivers seat, but it shares the same 91" beam as the larger SN, so Id say it feels roomier than the 2001, at least the longer deck 82-86 version.
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I do have a friend up north that does have a 176. All I know is everyone loves to ski behind it!


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Thanks for the replies so far.

Still looking at upgrading the '86, having a tough time deciding. I love everything about our '86 except for the wood stringers and top deck gel that has some blisters. Don't want to buy anything more than a ski nautique....lots of wakeboard boats for sale.

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What do ya want to know about the 176?
I can tell ya set up with a 11-A tabbed rudder and a GT-40 they are wonderfull ski boats. In My opinion one of if not the finest slalom boats ever built.
This was the first computer rendered boat that We Built at Correct Craft. All the original frame stations for the plug came off a computer and then C&C cut on a router. A master Craftsmen tool maker then skined and faired the plug. when one looks a 176 you can see the clean crisp tool work that this man did.
I remember that the boat was so good that managament at the time had us de-tune the boat by installing a hand made stainless steel rudder that was way under sized. Down side to the boat is that it has a rather small interrior space.
None the less it was ahead of its time as it truly was a wide body boat in comparison to what was built at that time.
Also the 176 when weighted made a pretty fair little wakeboard boat.
When Ron Scarpa was still with us he had a GT-40 equipped stripped down 176 that he kept even a number of years after he went to Malibu.
If you dont mind small interrior space and want the best wakes for overall skiing the 176 is a great little boat!

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That explains the homemade-looking, stainless rudder on Kyle's 176.
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I remember taking the 176 in for a rudder change bronze to stainless, and i dont know why but I truly think mine was a 1996, really i did own one but to me back then it was a ski boat and i didnt put much thought into being a CC, it did have a nice wake and i believe they de-tuned those 176's because they really performed well. I too thought it was a baseline boat until I sold it and found it that it was highly sought after, I hated the flat glass but loved the transom corners
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what was the deal with the rudders?
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i think it was part of the de-tuning, it was smaller than the original
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I'v got a feeling that with the large rudder they would power turn real easy and maybe when you really didn't want to!!

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Sounds like because they didn't want a price point boat that would out preform their flag ship boat. Kyle, sounds like a new rudder is in order for you.
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Thanks for the replies.

Sounds like this could be a good replacement for the '86.

Also sound like GT-40 heads, cam, and intake could make one of these boats quite a rocket. Add the right rudder and it may be quite a nice boat.

If anybody knows of one for sale please drop me a note.

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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

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Contacted that one....no response.

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Originally posted by Keith Keith wrote:

That explains the homemade-looking, stainless rudder on Kyle's 176.


Keith - I believe Jody used the term “handmade” not “homemade”… LOL!!


I love my 176. It is a great little boat, especially with the GT-40!

I’m a big guy, but the 176 has plenty of room for me – both behind the wheel and moving around in the boat.

I don’t find storage is an issue, but I don’t use the boat much beyond our little lake. With the camp right there I don’t have to worry about keeping equipment in the boat all day.

One small storage issue… I’m not sure if 196 owners have this issue, but I have to be careful when I do have skis in the boat. If I lay a ski behind the driver’s seat next to the motor box I have to make sure the fin is directly behind the driver, otherwise the fin would rest on the back seat. Not a big deal, but it does make me nervous that it might tear the vinyl. Of course this isn’t an issue with the back seat out or in the sun pad position.

As I’m sure my friends on the site know, I’m about as ‘recreational’ as a skier can get, so I’m afraid I can’t comment on slaloming behind my boat. My idea of slaloming is our Connolly ‘Big Daddy’ ski, or – as my uncle calls it – the ironing board. Brad’s friend Erich slalomed behind my boat at the 07 NE reunion and he had great things to say about the wake. Cheney also skied behind my boat that day, but I’m not sure what she thought of the wake.

I have heard that, with some weight in the back, the 176 has a pretty good wake for wakeboarding. I haven’t tried it, but just driving around with a few folks in the back of my boat I can see the wake does indeed look pretty good for wakeboarding.

I will say that after running to and from Log Cove on Lake George the 176 does not handle rough water as well as the 196 or the 2001 hulls. I was behind Keith’s dad in Keith’s 1994 196 on the way up and followed Ken and Patricia in their 1986 2001 on the way back and I found that I seemed to bounce around more than they did. (I now know why the newer boats have a pad under the driver’s elbow!) I’m sure, since the bow on the 176 isn’t as ‘pointy’ as the other boats, it can’t cut through the waves as efficiently.

Tim is correct, with fairly smooth water and only a couple of people in the boat, I can pin the Airguides at 50. I’d really like to check that on a GPS.

Unfortunately I forgot all about the ‘Adirondack Dash’ at LG this year. I saw Tim with the GPS, but figured he was just seeing what the new BF Nautique would do. I didn’t realize I missed out till Keith did the awards at the banquet. Count me in for next year!

Last year I noticed ’98 Prototype 176’ handwritten on one of the aluminum brackets that the motor mounts to on my boat. I emailed CC last year with this information as well as hull numbers and asked for any info they had on my 176 or the ’66 Skylark. I tried several times, but I never heard back from anyone. I know Dave (Hendricks) changed jobs around that time so I assumed I was lost in the shuffle.

So we’re all on the same page, here are some shots of my rudder…






Here is a shot of the '98 Prototype 176' written on the bracket...



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At LG we were all looking at that rudder - now we know. ;)
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Why the hand made rudder?
Well like I said the boat turned out to exceed all expectations as far as performance and ski-ability. Managament at the time really wanted the boat for a entry level platform but it became obvious real quick that the little boat was as good or better a Slalom boat then the flagship Ski Nautique. So orders came down the pipe to de-tune it some how so the obvious was to put a smaller rudder on and effectivly make the boat not track and turn nor be as responsive as the Ski Nautique. The rudder was built in house with a plasma cutter and a grinder, welded with a tig unit and cleaned up as best as one could do it with out spending hours on it.
Want somthing that has the mack daddy flat wake, low spray and will track better than most all of today's tournament boats. Try a 176 put a 11-A rudder in it! TaDa!

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I had a 98 Air Tique 176. Nothing wrong with the wake for boarding.I'd still have it,but with a wife,2 kids and guests (or a couple of fatsacs) it was just too small. It was a sweet boat though. IIRC mine had the bronze rudder. Come to think of it, I don't have one single picture of that boat.

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I'll throw in another "thumbs up" for the 176. I ski quite a bit with a friend and his wife who have one. It offers a very nice pull for slalom, barefooting and the very basic trick skiing we do. We do notice it is a bit tight on space if we have a bunch of gear and are not wanting to make trips back to the dock. As was mentioned before, the boat does get up and go......
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Here are a couple of shots of Mike's old Air Tique...





It was a heck of a nice boat! Wish I had that stereo in my 176!

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Whats that white stuff in the back ground???
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Originally posted by Fl Inboards Fl Inboards wrote:

Whats that white stuff in the back ground???


Thats what keeps us gator free in our lakes

Nice looking 176...wonder if it is for sale?

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Originally posted by 05 210 05 210 wrote:

   I had a 98 Air Tique 176. Nothing wrong with the wake for boarding.I'd still have it,but with a wife,2 kids and guests (or a couple of fatsacs) it was just too small. It was a sweet boat though. IIRC mine had the bronze rudder. Come to think of it, I don't have one single picture of that boat.
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IIRC? Is the correct acronym - If I remember correctly?

I also had this shot of the transom... The rudder looks the same as my boat.



So, for my edification, if I pull my 'handmade' rudder and install a bronze one, like the 196s have, it will do what? Better turning? If I ran the coarse, better tracking as the skier runs the buoys?

Is it the shape or size of the bronze rudder that makes the difference?

I appreciate the information!
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Originally posted by Fl Inboards Fl Inboards wrote:

Whats that white stuff in the back ground???


Thats what keeps us gator free in our lakes

Nice looking 176...wonder if it is for sale?


NECC had it for sale about 4 years ago. I believe he sold it to a woman who had size and hp restrictions on her lake. She had the motor pulled and had a 4 cylinder motor installed.   

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Originally posted by 66Skylark 66Skylark wrote:

Originally posted by behindpropeller behindpropeller wrote:

Originally posted by Fl Inboards Fl Inboards wrote:

Whats that white stuff in the back ground???


Thats what keeps us gator free in our lakes

Nice looking 176...wonder if it is for sale?


NECC had it for sale about 4 years ago. I believe he sold it to a woman who had size and hp restrictions on her lake. She had the motor pulled and had a 4 cylinder motor installed.   



I wonder if she uses it anymore?

I would LOVE to buy one of those and drop one of the 343hp motors in it :)

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A four banger on a tique..lol sad end for such fine boat...
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I also had this shot of the transom... The rudder looks the same as my boat.



   Indeed. What do I know? I spent all my time in it, not under it

   Anyway Kyle, it looks like you got my back on the pics. If you don't mind fowarding any shots of that boat to me that you have I would greatly appreciate it. You are correct, the boat went to a restricted lake and the motor was swapped out. I traded it in the fall of 05 and it resold I believe in late spring of 06. It came from Texas and only had 83 hours on it when I bought it in the summer of 05. It was about as close to "mint" (sorry Pete!) as a used boat could get. I believe the boat may be in Connecticut now .

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Tim,

I imagine you've scoured the interwebs as well as anyone but maybe these are obscure enough ads that you missed them.

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