returning point ..back on track!!!

Gary S wrote: Or he has a bad ground. Did you paint the motor and then install the starter? The starter might have high resistance to ground because of the paint

I did paint the engine!! while I was there today I checked ground. So I unhooked the engine ground cable and grinded the sitting area of the cable, so now it sit to the bare metal no paint there...I also grinded the cable terminal

I did paint the engine!! while I was there today I checked ground. So I unhooked the engine ground cable and grinded the sitting area of the cable, so now it sit to the bare metal no paint there...I also grinded the cable terminal[/QUOTE]

Now we wont know if it was the starter or the ground. Keep us posted and good job your getting close!!!

Sebastian - I have heard that di-electric grease applied over connections will keep them from corroding.

You might want to try that on your ground connection after you get it working, to keep it working.

On your alignment - Is the strut aligned with the center of the log? You might want to check for that - see where the shaft naturally wants to be. I had to shim my strut to center up with the log.

Forgot to menction..hope its not bad: while the engine was idling and with the shaft not hooked to the tranny coupling, I noticed the coupling was slowly turning..very slow i mean...Is this normal?
hope not as I don´t have the mooth for a rebuilt right now..LOL

I have always heard that the coupler turning very slowly while in neutral and at idle was expected behavior.

Mine does the same. Even when in the water, at idle the shaft turns very very slowly. Same comment as SNobsessed: no fix planned anytime soon.

Just came from working on the boat..good news I finally alligned..I have .002 diference top to bottom wich according to the manual its within specs...shaft turns freely by hand and evan all the turn...so I guess its done...
Now the bad news I´m still stucked with the starting problem (not ignition related) The starter was freshen and cleaned, the leads were replaced.. but Its still not working as it should. Boat started with some slow turns and was there for 5 minutes until it stopped..then warm impossible to get it started again. Even with two bateries no moves..Engine its very compressed I guess ..clue less. Tried to move the engine by the crak and it was stucked I feared..then removed all the plugs to see if I could move it and yes it turned freely even with the small leverage I had from the wrench.. Tried to crank it like that with the battery and even like that it would not turn...So now I took the starter again for a full rebuilt (re-do the copper coil) also took the cables to have them welded as the terminal are not that tight!! And finally I will get a new battery...
I tried retarding the ignition but did not affect the cranking...
I´m pissed...

Hope I can solve this ASAP...

Nop but might cahnged them..the inner copper in the actual ones looks right,,but tthe terminal were a little rusted..

I would want to chance it also but the only chance of a new one is have one sent from the US...10 days at least to have it here!!! And I want my boat now!!!

One new sent from the US would turn out costing me around $450-500
I also was quoted from a dealer $830!!
against 80-150 for the rebuilt twice!!
I think i´m choosing the rebuilt..any way In the worst case I can pay that money If I gone that far in the rebuilt that 500 will not ruin the 5k I put in that engine so far...(I should have ordered a new starter from the begining alond with the ignition retrofit).
Now I talked to a mechanic friend that services some PCM engines and he happens to have in his shop a 96 gt40 engine that belongs to the local ski federation. And offered to borrow me starter of the engine while mine is being rebuilt. Only difference it has the newer style starter which is more compact and has a 2 wire hook up.
Just hanged up with Eric about the fit of that one on my engine and he assured me it would go...
BTW NICE TALKING TO YOU ERIC!!!

Now in the case i take that one for testing how should I run the wires to make it provisional until I get the old one?

thaks Kapla

Just for test, you could put an auto starter on it. Don't leave it that way though!!

I'm sure someone who knows is following this thread, but in the older natiques, what was the difference between a auto and marine starter?

BuffaloBFN wrote: Whenever yall send those dirty neutrals to Eric, you'll be pleased with what comes back!

As I said to Eric on the phone: if it gets to a point I can no longer accept it, it'll be in a crate on its way to "Fantastic Finish Marine" faster than you can say "I-got-a-problem-with-my-tranny-lets-send-it-to-the-tranny-man-in-ohio!"...

Good luck kap,your getting real close to done.

She runs!!!!I was there today morning, put the starter the cables, new battery....put her in the water..turned the key...broooomm..like a champ..let it runs for 10 minutes..tuned off...started again..no problem starter now flyies....wow so i went for a ride..boat goes fine...very smooth..anyways I need to adjust some things..but is runing great....