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How long do stringers last? 2yrs,5yrs,10yrs.. or...
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We're not going to be able to give you a solid answer by looking at pictures but they may give us a idea if you should continue your investigating. A good spot to get a picture of is where the cross pieces intersect the tops of the stringers.

There isn't any time period you can put on when the factory stringers will go, but your boat is 25 years old and vulnerable.

Did you have any problems understand the alignment procedure? If out, it too can tell you somethings going on with the stringers.


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Yes sir Pete,
I understood it rather well. It showed great examples of what and where to look and how to adjust.
I had some other stuff I have to care off today and will not post pics of my stringers.I will next weekend.. Yesterday though,on my way home from work, I contacted a Correct Craft Dealer here in Houston. It said stringers are hard to ruin but signs are soft spots in the floor. My floor is perfect but you never know I guess..
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Yesterday though,on my way home from work, I contacted a Correct Craft Dealer here in Houston. It said stringers are hard to ruin but signs are soft spots in the floor.


Lee,
I wonder what he's been smoking!! I guess he never visits CCfan ether. Guessing, I'd say we have about 6 stringer jobs going on right now!!

Just take a good look and take the pictures.



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6 going on and 35000 more to go, i guess the good thing is if they didnt foam these boat we wouldnt have anything to talk about
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Originally posted by WakeSlayer WakeSlayer wrote:

Originally posted by Keeganino Keeganino wrote:

The PO of my boat swore up and down that the floor was solid.


I can never figure out how people can claim that in for sale ads without ever having looked under there. You see it an awful lot.


The funny part is that the guy I bought it from is one of my best friends who is going through a divorce and had to sell so I got a steal on it. Well that's not funny but I kept telling him I was finding wet wood in it and he would say "you need to stop digging around in the boat or your gonna mess it up. I told him until he came out and saw what I had seen he needed to keep his mouth shut about what I was doing on the boat. He was still trying to tell me not to do this restring job until he finally came over and saw for himself the extent of the damage. There is zero and I mean zero dry wood in this boat. Even while he was looking at it he says "this wood right here is fine", then put his finger right through it. I just laughed and gave him a big I told you so! I am going to remove every piece of wood in the boat. I don't care if it looks good or not. The tops of my engine stringers looked great, felt great, but when I tried to tighten the engine mounts they just free spun. Now I have found that they are rotten out on the top where they meet the transom and on top under the front seats.

It still ran great in November and I had no idea it was going to be as bad as it was. I wanted to soldier on through this next season but am so glad I decided to go ahead and break it down. Safety first, and preservation of the machine second. I could have put my family in danger or caused irreparable damage to the transmission and engine. In my humble opinion you need to go ahead and make it right.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Yesterday though,on my way home from work, I contacted a Correct Craft Dealer here in Houston. It said stringers are hard to ruin but signs are soft spots in the floor.


Lee,
I wonder what he's been smoking!! I guess he never visits CCfan ether. Guessing, I'd say we have about 6 stringer jobs going on right now!!

Just take a good look and take the pictures.


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Yea, thats what is confusing? Correct Craft says go buy the floor, and he even commented by tapping on the egine mounts where they are bolted, and if you get a hard sound you good, if they make a hollow sound they are probally ruined. I will take those pics next weekend. Pete, I am going to be at the CCF Reuinon in TX, would like to meet you and shoot the breeze with ya. You been kind my friend. Thanks Pete
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Lee,
Some dealers may be off in their own world being tuned into newer boats. Some won't even work on a boat older than 20 years. Also, I'd say a good percentage will job out their glass repair so haven't a clue about the real world and wood stringers.

Stick with the advice you find here as the knowledge base is way beyond the dealers.

I wish I could make it to all the gatherings and meet as many of the CCfan family as possible but until I have more time on my hands that won't happen. In the mean time we communicate via this great forum.


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It sad that a large part of our boat building/repair knowledge is fastly being lost to time. Their is a Shipwright here in PC that is a master ship carpenter and I try and go see him at least once a month, try and learn a few things. The younger generation has no mind to learn how to use a block plane or draw knife.
Most of the ski boat dealerships I know of would never tackle a stringer or floor job they just do not have the knowledge and experiance to do the job.
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Hey Jody...any chance your friend would let me hang out for a day or two and learn something? Some enjoy teaching and some don't, but I sure would like to know more about the older ways.

Ask him if you see him and I'll tug your ear at the river.
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Pete,
Sounds good, I think there is a vast of just opionions out there. That's why I am glad to have meet the CCF family and are able to communicate with people as your self. I will be on all week, and post those pics of my stringers and floor next weekend. I am curious what people may say of my stringers. I will be shocked if there ruined.
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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

Hey Jody...any chance your friend would let me hang out for a day or two and learn something? Some enjoy teaching and some don't, but I sure would like to know more about the older ways.


Greg,
I keep saying you're next in line for a wood boat project. You'd be perfect for it.

I do have several friends who went to Mystic Seaport school and all stated it was well worth it. Notice in their description they talk about cutting stem rabbets. You could go to Mystic or drive up here to the Alan Arrighi school of boat building!! Bring all your clamps with you!!


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Originally posted by Fl Inboards Fl Inboards wrote:

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Most of the ski boat dealerships I know of would never tackle a stringer or floor job they just do not have the knowledge and experiance to do the job.


No, the reason dealerships don't do stringer jobs because they can make more money doing other things.

A good number of the stringer jobs on this site are by first-timers. What makes these guys more qualified than a dealership that has never done one before?
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What makes these guys more qualified than a dealership that has never done one before?


Mostly the detailed information on this site and the willingness to do it right the 1st time on our boats.
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Probably the reason owners on this site do the jobs themselves is because they want it done right with no shortcuts. I would have a hard time paying a dealership or anybody $4K-6K or more without looking over their shoulders to see what is going on.

I admire the owners to take on a project like this (I am in the middle of a complete rebuild myself) It s because of the great help and advice from fellow CC owners that this is possible.

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What makes these guys more qualified than a dealership that has never done one before?


They are going to live with it, so they put extra effort into the details. Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by critter critter wrote:

Mostly the detailed information on this site and the willingness to do it right the 1st time on our boats.


Oh that's right, dealers don't have internet access. lol

I don't think many owners of $4k boats would pay $7.5k for a decent stringer job. Dealers make money elsewhere.   
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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

Hey Jody...any chance your friend would let me hang out for a day or two and learn something? Some enjoy teaching and some don't, but I sure would like to know more about the older ways.


Greg,
I keep saying you're next in line for a wood boat project. You'd be perfect for it.

I do have several friends who went to Mystic Seaport school and all stated it was well worth it. Notice in their description they talk about cutting stem rabbets. You could go to Mystic or drive up here to the Alan Arrighi school of boat building!! Bring all your clamps with you!!


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Pete, when I hit the lottery and can quit working I'm going to do a four year apprenticeship here


Alan,
If you win the lottery, you could just have Van Dam build a boat for you But on second thought, that wouldn't be as much fun!

BTW, I know 6 of those boats they had on their site are on Lake Geneva (where the $$$ is!!) and I know 2 are chapter members. We get several others that do come to the show as well. Next fall you need to make it and see them up close.


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200x50- 10k, generally glass work is 50 per hour
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200x50- 10k, generally glass work is 50 per hour


Well, there you go! I used $50/hr too (just by chance), but I figured that after their third one and with all those nice tools at the dealership, they could probably knock out a stringer job in 150 hrs.
   
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Guy's It would be nice to know what all a "Stringer Quote includes"

100 % start to finish ?

Removal of all items above the floor
Removal of engine
"Total" stringer rebuild
Floor replacement
Carpet replacement
Re install removed items

Lot's of work.

Is there anyone out there that paid to do everything ?

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Is there anyone out there that paid to do everything ? Dennis


Originally posted by WakeSlayer WakeSlayer wrote:

Couple guys have tried.


Probably John Winn but it looks like he wouldn't have a problem paying for it!!


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I would like to know too.. Sounds like a expensive job, guessing 8k to 9k is about for whole job..
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I have read some places where a full replacement is 2K to do it yourself, and 8-9k if you want to get ripped off..
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