Source of water

OverMyHead wrote: 79nautique wrote: ten bucks it's the packing glands and all he has to do is pull the drain, let it dry out, intall the drain plug and lower into water and watch where the water leaks. This is almost comical some of the BS do this don't do that, please this is so simple to figure out it almost not worth commenting on, especially with all the shade tree clowns commenting. Yeah thats what everyone told me this spring. 20 + hours and 10 square feet of delamed fiberglass later I had it fixed. Lost some of its comic value.

not my fault you don't know what delaminated fiberglass looks or feels like. It just amazes me how people overlook the simple stuff then try and compound the matter trying to figure out were the leak is. It's pretty straight forward to figure out, drain and dry the bilge area, remove the floor panel in the rear, lower the boat into the water and watch were the water leaks real tough sitting there drinking a coldie and watching for a stream of water to appear somewhere. This takes a real long time to get to the bottom of it. whats that saying work smarter than harder,.... guess it's work harderd and dumber for a vast majority around here lately.

Dave,
For a "shade tree clown", I feel you did great!! Besides, in your case, it was a tough call as to whether the leak was from a bad exhaust hose between the stringers or as it turned out the delamination. Didn't Chris think it was a bad hose??

8122pbrainard wrote: Dave, For a "shade tree clown", I feel you did great!! Besides, in your case, it was a tough call as to whether the leak was from a bad exhaust hose between the stringers or as it turned out the delamination. Didn't Chris think it was a bad hose??

Actually I never made a comment about his problem, to me if you can't find a water leak then you have no business being in a boat.

I find it stupid to be asking questions were to find a water leak, it is so simple to find, but then if you don't pay attention to detail and cannot tell the difference in the way the fiberglass looks in the bottom of the boat and feel around suspect area's I'm sorry about you. And then if you are not smart enough to figure out if you dry out the boat, put it back in the water and watch were the water is coming from you just might find the source of the leak, but hell that's rocket science and overyourhead appearently.

Water flows down hill all you have to do is follow it up hill to find the leak, Childs play in my book.

Pete I MADE NO COMMENTS REGARDING DAVE"S ISSUE in finding his water leak, yes I have commented on this thread which Dave did not start, SO get the FACTS straight.

point is it's not hard to find the leak, now if I would have been commenting on Dave problems which I didn't, If it was me I would have checked several things that he did not and found the leak fairly quickly. Again water flows down hill not up hill so it really not that hard to trace it back to the source and use common scense and logic to solve the problem and find the leak.

So AGAIN I SUGGEST THAT THE BILGE AREA BE COMPLETELY DRAINED AND DRIED AND THE BOAT DROPPED BACK INTO THE WATER, ENJOY A COLD POP WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE WATER TO APPEAR. PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD AND EASY TO DO FOR ABOUT ANYONE. PS remove the floor panels so that you can see were the water is coming from, SIMPLE CHILDS PLAY CRAP IMHO.


Put if you want to complicate crap go ahead go right ahead. If you can't find the source of a water leak within minutes then you have no business owning a boat

8122pbrainard wrote: 79nautique wrote: Pete I MADE NO COMMENTS REGARDING DAVE"S ISSUE in finding his water leak, yes I have commented on this thread which Dave did not start, SO get the FACTS straight. Chris, Sorry, You are correct that I got Dave and Mark mixed up in this thread. Ok, I'll send Mark the $10 when we find out what the leak is!! Then you can have a cold one on me!! BTW, I'll safely say it stuffing boxes too.

I agree, start with the simple most common places then logicly move to other area's where the leak can occur from.

Oh, and Mark, you can't just sit there and wait for a leak to appear.
You have to get down on your hands and knees and go hunting.
And even tho it's broad daylight, a flashlight is helpful.

Good luck!

AT

My right side Airglide/guide sp? does not work. So whats up with that?

check the boat for leaks as it is stationary and turned off, eliminate those, then start it and look for hoses leaking, next drive it and find the leaks. Loose packing glands will leak just seating there, exhaust and pick-up hose will leak seating stationary with the engine runing, Packing glands will also leak underway with the boat moving as well as the speedometer's tubing and ballast tubes.

So there are several stages that you need to check and in that order, stationary boat off, stationary engine running, then while under power. Take your time you'll find them all. With as much water as your getting you most likely have more than one source of water entering the bilge just start each stage with a dry bilge and you will find the leaks.

Again water flows down hill not up hill so it really not that hard to trace it back to the source and use common scense and logic to solve the problem and find the leak.

Mine flowed from the shaftlog to the stringer when in the water. I believe that is uphill I believe you forgotr to factor in pressure.

79nautique wrote: Again water flows down hill not up hill so it really not that hard to trace it back to the source and use common scense and logic to solve the problem and find the leak.

One last shot. Mine Came in the shaft log and flowed out the stringer. Uphill in my book. You forgot to factor in pressure.

Sorry I Kind of hijacked this thread but my intended points were these.

1. I want a long list possible problems to look for, first so I do not go to the lake and find out it is not the shaft log and then return home for the next post only to return to the lake again to look at the rudder/through hull fittings ect. And also the more that is discussed the more I learn. I am not an idustry expert but hope to someday be a wise poobah with increased experience and the help of this site.

2.This is a discussion forum, why discourage discussion? If it offends you dont read it. Accurate advice is seldom backed up with reasoning, leaving little to work with when contemplating future situations , but bad advice leads to argeuing and explanations of reasoning and far greater learning potential.

3. I am just a user of this site and not in a position to judge others fitness to contribute. I can challange their input but not judge their worthiness to post. If I could make that judgment I would ban arrogent / discouraging members who put the poo in poobah. Good teachers have knowlege AND the ability to foster others to want to listen and learn.

4. The most common reason for water in the bilge is forgeting to put the plug in .

5. I can find the source of most water leaks in minutes. It is almost always the lake. Can I keep my boat?

Hi All


I have a 95SN its my second summer as owner.

I also have water coming from an unidentified location . I followed the above threads ( great conversation) and have isolated it to somewhere from the 3 fins. The water seems to come up in the area in front of the ski rope pylon under the deck. See the picture.   I took the boat out of the water and checked the fins looks like it had been resealed before. what is the best procedure for this repair. If I unscrew the fins will I be able to screw them back easily? does the screw go into a receptacle or is it directly into the fiberglass. any advise would help. thanks

dstop wrote: If I unscrew the fins will I be able to screw them back easily? does the screw go into a receptacle or is it directly into the fiberglass. any advise would help. thanks

The fins are through bolted and should be pretty easy to seal up using Pete's described method above. 5200 is amazing stuff. I applied it to the top of the fin that makes contact with the hull and even put some topside under the washers just for good measure and because the tube seems to last forever. Good luck!

Also I tried to upload a picture of where i think the water is coming from but it did not work. how do i upload it

so does that mean this is not the source of the leak?

I have noticed that more ofter than usual the bilge goes on. so I did empty all the water out, dryed up the bildge area and the looked for water. i found it comming up just forward of the ski pylon under the deck . it was not comming in fast