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Luchog 
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 Topic: tools shoppingPosted: March-16-2011 at 1:19am |
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As some of you might know I'm working at a boat service shop, I have my own set of "quick repair" tools, mostly bahcos, but I want to buy a complete set as I dont like borrowing tools.
I have come through some nice Craftman sets at Sears, are they any good? I have people going to the US and they could bring one to me. So questions is, is the craftman brand good enough to work with? is there something else you might recomend? I really like the Bahco's but they are quite pricey. Also, were is a good place to buy from? |
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sweet77
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 2:18am |
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craftsman are good tools. lifetime warranty and for doing the kind of work you do they would work fine for the price. Snap-on MAC are awesome tools very smooth ratchets.but no way worth the money
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wingwrench
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 12:00pm |
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All my basic tools, wrenches, ratchets, sockets etc., are Craftsman and have been making me money for over 30 years. I only buy Snap-on or Mac if Sears doesn't make it, like 1/4" drive swivel sockets. They are good quality and when they wear out or break take them back and get new.
Ebay has been a good source for Snap-on for me. |
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Dreaming
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 4:33pm |
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I love my Snap on tools.... my craftsman tools do work well for most things, but when you break it, it's going to be hard to find replacements (warrantee) if there isn't a Sears in Argentina, and they don't fit the hand very well for someone who is working with them daily. Snap-on while pricey is a very well built tool, nice feel in your hand, and world wide product representation... Mac and Cornwell are also nice, Protec, etc.... each has their nice advantages. If you have a supplier local that can get you nice tools, it might be worth sticking with your local guy so replacements and warrantee's still apply
always fun to shop for tools!!! edit - I like to look for snap on stuff at the pawn shops... some times there are good deals to be had, and warrantee is equal. |
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eric lavine
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 7:19pm |
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my snap-ons sit, i use gear wrenches 95% of the time, i have them all the way up to 1.125 craftsman outsources but once again you have no choice. all my screwdrivers are crapsman....i bundle them once a year and go get a new set
I dont like car payments or tool payments, the hilljacks down here in the tucky finance 15k boxes with the number 3 on them...to each his own, thats alot of beer money. i guess im more geared to making money then spending it |
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kapla
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 7:42pm |
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wattabout sata? I have a nice set of socket wrenches, been using them a lot and never failed...
About warranty..no representation here for snap..so its kinda same... Edit: I know its chinese, but not the usual chinese crap IMO... |
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harddock
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:03pm |
+1 on the gear wrench, cept mine are blue point. As for ratchets a screwdrivers I like the feel of snap on better than craftsman. And last but not least my box has the #8 and Bud/Jr mural when the lid is opened. It had a dent in the back and caught it on ebay for cheap with no reserve. |
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peter1234
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:31pm |
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I have mostly snap on and feel that sockets and open end wrenches you use daily are hard to beat. its funny but it seems that through the yrs you find a diff brand seems to be better for a certain task.. fav wrench of all time craftsman offset double box 9/16 5/8.. i have actually broken head bolts loose with one .
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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eric lavine
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:51pm |
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no pun there hard, i went thru many boxes in the old days, like boats i kept upgrading to bigger and better...then wisdom kicked in, some of these off brand companies make great boxes for 1/10 of the money and were not available back in the day which left no choice. but one thought came to mind,the other day I had to torque a mercedes truck head, that beeoch had to go to 207 ft lbs then 90 degrees and another 90 degrees, it was a 19mm 12 point and my only choice was a crapsman silver socket, 3/4 ratchet with a 4 ft cheater...bent the cheater, socket never broke
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eric lavine
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:52pm |
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Kap, Sata, paint guns?
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Luchog
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 9:57pm |
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Thing goes like this, we currently work with Bahco and Stanley, I'd buy all bahco stuff locally but 2 socket set costs more than a 300 pieces craftman set bought locally. (U$D750)
If I get to buy it in the states and have it shipped it would cost around 50%. So it's a nice option and I could get a bigger set. Bahco's have lifetime warranty, you break it you get a new one. The Stanley's down here are now made in Brazil, they are much much cheaper but couldnt get a review on quality. There are no Sears or Snap on reps in Argentina. So the question is, are Craftman's good enough to work with? Are there other brands I should consider for the same price? |
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 10:13pm |
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For those who feel Craftsman is a good tool, why do they break? Do you enjoy taking them back for a new one?
BTW, you had better check on the Sears warrantee. The last I heard, some of their tools you can not return if broken. Eric, I love the "crapsman" comment!!! 
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 10:29pm |
100% agree! Crapsman rachets are good for playing trash can toss.Hardly worth the gas money to bring back only to find out the are out of replacemnet guts and you have to come back. I have broken every craftsman rachet I have ever owned. Never have I broke my Snap-ON rachets. Craftsman end wrenches and sockets are ok.But when I have to replace one I would buy a Snap or Mac and never have a problem again. |
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Luchog
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:04pm |
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So the ratchets are not good, but I could replace with any other brand if I had to.
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Luchog
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:06pm |
So that's why you dont own a boat, right? |
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:27pm |
Correct! |
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MartyMabe
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:29pm |
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Dang- What are you guys using your Ratchet's for? My dad still has an 1/2" ratchet from the 60's--wrench's and sockets too!
I have never broken a 3/8" ratchet in my Craftsmen tool supply. Beat'em up, take them back and get new ones. No problem at my store. The 'Gearwrench' line that Sears offers is cheaper but just as sturdy. Got all my 'ratchet wrench's' in the Gearwrench brand. |
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sweet77
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:39pm |
once again its all about the money i have SNAP-ON screw drivers and they are awesome way better than my craftsman but for a phillips head and 1 flat head i paid almost $19.00 so its all about your wallet if you got money$$$$$$$$$ go with the snap-on if money is an issue craftsman but yes ive broke several ratchets returned and broke again |
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Posted: March-16-2011 at 11:52pm |
When they went to China the quality dropped like a rock. Shocker I have 60 era sets from my great uncle and they are just as good as my Snap On or Mac. All this being said I owned the chrome plated impact sockets from sears for a long time before shelling out for some actual impact sockets. LOL |
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Luchog
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:14am |
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I have around U$D500 to spend, What's important to me are:
3/8 sockets, deep, ratchets, extensions, hex etc. 1/2 sockets, idem Combination wrenches allen screwdrivers (square profile is preferable) pliers Those "fuel fitting wrenches" (between closed and open end) All in metric and SAE |
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:15am |
They break when they are abused, doesn't matter who makes them. Grind a socket too thin, it splits, same goes for a wrench, the difference is Sears gives me a new one, the Snap-on guy tells me sorry you misused it. The only problem I have with Craftsman ratchets is they will stop retaining the socket but usually an overnight soak in the clean tank will cure it, if not it goes back for a new one. I have never broken a wrench, ratchet or socket that wasn't "modified". |
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:29am |
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Maybe its the size of my guns ......LOL I have never broke a snap on rachet. I have a 1/4 to 3/8 adapter on my Snap and never had an issue.
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:42am |
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My Dad is still using his Sears from the '60s,chrome is good, ratchets are good. Mine on the other hand have pealing chrome and I seem to go thru ratchets quite often.The Sears in my area don't give you a new ratchet,but hand you one that has been repaired,so you get the one that was last used as a hammer. I keep forgetting why I don't go much anymore,then I go in and soon remember why.
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:44am |
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did anyone ever have the old bonney tools?
snap on 1 inch combination box wrench $130.00 ? please |
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:51am |
I have some in my antique tool collection I do not own any large Snap on wrenches (the cheap stuff works). |
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:52am |
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Craigs List and have a freind ship them to you....?
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:56am |
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I have a friend that hits every pawn shop he comes across looking for old tools because they were made so much better. He has a pretty awesome collection going. Its cool to see "Made in Chicago" or "Made in Milwaukee" on your tools. Made in the USA was a given back then. You had to represent your city!
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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Keeganino
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 12:58am |
I lucked into a set of these and they are nice but still just a wrench. Might not say that if I had paid retail though! |
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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Posted: March-17-2011 at 1:10am |
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Here is a 200 pc set for only $5000. Smokin deal!
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