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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

John Gillette


Hollywood et al...that Gillette interview was done by the Toes Up site which also profile 2 other footing "Legends," Don Mixon Jr. and Brian Fuchs.

It was interesting to read that none of these legends skis any more. Gillette a time or two a year, but the others not at all. Anyone else think that's odd?
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DMJ skied regionals a few years ago, kicked ass in slalom I believe? He was posting on the BFC forums for a while.

Fuchs, I have have no clue. Obviously Willie is still skiing with our West Coast barefoot contingent.

Rick Powell and Randy Filter, 2 more ghosts.

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that ski wake jump/bomb out trick he did was about the sickest thing I have seen.
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nice! rough waters though!
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Did it work for you kapla? It did not for me.

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the wake jump out is awesome so is the dock back flip back deep start
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Did it work for you kapla? It did not for me.

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Nice Hollywood!!! I think yours was actually smoother than his, but his camera was better quality. You gotta do that with a better quality vid and make slo motion. That would be most ballin!
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Did it work for you kapla? It did not for me.

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yes it did
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Steve: I guess it is curious these guys don't foot any more. Not surprising, though. I spend a lot of time with Willie Farrell, who turned 56 this year, so he is the same era as a lot of these guys. His passion hasn't seemed to wane. I do detect frustration at him not at the top of his game, or better put, being in a position to accel past his best footing, which right now is darn good.

I can see how some of these guys, once they leave the competetive arena, and all the mojo and adreneline there, that it would be easy to drop out of the scene. When Willie barefoots, it is game-freaking-on. He does not take "fun-runs." He is not wired that way. It is all about the competition.

That Randy Filter fella has some sick footin'. He could put Andre to shame on the easy front to back.
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Roy you got hooked on BF 4-5 years ago..prior to that were you a slalom skier?
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I started footin' in 2008. Before that I was a slalom skier. Haven't run the course ONCE since I started footing. How are you Sebastian? Getting any winter footing? Hey, I am lucky to get in another day with David Small tomorrow! Gonna work on back one foots, front wake slalom, back wake slalom, and surface turns. Should be a goody!
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Did you see the size of those stern rollers when Powell did that dock back deep start. 2 foot rollers!!!! yikes...
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little lazy on the winter footing! lol I have some footage from the last outing on mid august with the gopro! Will probably upload some tonite.
This WE was really cold 40. No one´s available to drive me...
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HW, the W2W bomb out is awesome!
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ll backflip start is cool!!
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Originally posted by Jllogan Jllogan wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Did it work for you kapla? It did not for me.

HW bombout


Nice Hollywood!!! I think yours was actually smoother than his, but his camera was better quality. You gotta do that with a better quality vid and make slo motion. That would be most ballin!


Kevin, we'll make that happen after labor day. I'll bring my HD camera and we'll get some better video!
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hey guys, i've seen a number of videos where footers will hop out of the boat at barefoot speed, shimmy out to the end of the boom and foot.

Who does this? Is this difficult to do? I know life is not w/o risk, but do you guys see this as being any more dangerous than starting on the end of the boom? the only real danger I see is falling too close to the boat and banging your head. Not sure if it's possible to fall under the boat.

Seems like, once mastered, this could really preserve your strength and maybe allow for an extra run or so. It makes my driver nervous when I talk about it though
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So here is some video from last week. This one would have actually told a better story filmed from shore. So we had been out all night looking for calm water, when we would see some one of us would swing out on the boom and ride through the smaller chop. I had been watching all night for an opportunity to jump out on the long line. So we are on the SW end of the lake and we see the bay on the NE end had just cleared off, so we fired up and go WOT across the lake, slow down and that is where the video starts, me jumping in the lake.

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So from the shore, you would have seen this boat flying in a guy jumps out as the boat idles along and then BAM, hit it, up I pop and start a footin run, swooping through the bay. Had to have been hilarious.

Anyway, it was a small bay and it was a pretty hard corner, I was pushin to keep from whipping out and hitting no-wake buoys, moored boats and docks,when I got into the chop (you'll hear my buddy say "Oh Sh1t," cause he knows what he is doing to me). You can see I caught my inside foot and boy did it throw me (the chick running the camera had never watched someone long line, which attributed to her reaction). Second time now I have ended a run with a stinger to my right arm - whole thing goes numb. Pretty scary when in the water and your going through the "system checks" and you find your arm "inoperable." I sense that is an occupational hazard to this sport, but if you slow the video down, you can see my left foot catches which spins me to the left and some how my right arm goes up allowing my triceps area of the arm to whack the water. Man that smarts... When I did surface, I was getting applause from some nearby pontoon boats, not sure if that was for the attempt at footin or the spectacular crash!
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Originally posted by Swatkinz Swatkinz wrote:

hey guys, i've seen a number of videos where footers will hop out of the boat at barefoot speed, shimmy out to the end of the boom and foot.


Steve, I usually do this on all of my first runs, but I may be a bit of a slacker. Works well when the water is chillier than what you're ready to jump in to or when you're searching for some smooth water for a quick run. I've never had a problem falling or hitting the boat, but you are jumping out into the side spray. It's a little trickier when you're swinging back in to get back in the boat.
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Originally posted by Swatkinz Swatkinz wrote:

hey guys, i've seen a number of videos where footers will hop out of the boat at barefoot speed, shimmy out to the end of the boom and foot.


I do it all the time when I foot shortline. The boat planes faster, it's less stress on the boom/boat/steering cable/skier. You'd really have to screw up to fall and hit the boat.



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some footage from my gopro camera!
taken on 8-12-11....


belly start LL

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Hey Seb: Nice job on the long line tumble-up start. But I am going to give you a hard time about your shoe skiing.

FIRST:Shoes allow you to do things you can't do on your barefeet, good and bad. When you were skiing on the video with the one-foots, you were standing straight up, with little or no knee bend. You can get away with it on shoes, but it is not good form. You need to practice proper technique on the shoes, like knee bend, etc. On one of the one foots, you were up soooo straight, the foot you lifted was behind you.

SECOND: you gotta STOP bending your arms on the one foots. There is no need anytime to do that, and it is a bad habit. If you bend your arms on one one-foots on shoes(which are REAL easy on shoes; I saw a FIRST TIME footer knock off one foots on shoes yesterday!) then it HAS become a bad habit.    

I spent the day on the water with David Small yesterday, and for me and the 4 others in the boat, much of the day was spent breaking bad habits, or correcting improper technique. You can pay him $200 per day to find that out, but I am telling you here for free!

Nice work, keep footing. BTW: I am going to post the most BADASS one foot wake crossings I have ever done! Stay tuned!
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Hollywood, those are a couple amazing videos. I have only been barefooting for 3 short years, but I am not sure how to say this... that was some crazy sH*%. There were guys doing stuff that had no business doing that stuff. And all that hanging on the freaking rope!?! Yikes. I guess I am paranoid, but that's the kind of stuff that blows out knees, shoulders, backs.

I know it is all in good fun, but Willie, Andy, the guys I foot with, David Small, would put an end to that pretty quick if I were attempting stuff at speed without proper instruction. Sorry if I sound like a prude, but that stuff is hard to watch and not sound off...
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Headed down to Katy, TX in the morning to ski with ADV. Bringing plenty of Advil.
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Originally posted by SN206 SN206 wrote:

Headed down to Katy, TX in the morning to ski with ADV. Bringing plenty of Advil.

Shoot some pics if you have the chance.....
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looking on replacing my 2 YO POS intensity BF suit...I´ve narrowed my searh on a EAGLE, BI IRON or Votex?
My brother will go to FLA on november, I guess by then I will be able to get some sale items! let me know if you see something interesting!


budget aroung 200-300
are this in good price?
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I also would like to buy suit for the kids what do you think of these?
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Kapla, a bit of a threadjack from your last post I suppose, but I'd be interested in knowing about technology improvements in the last 20 years with BF suits. I'm currently using approximately a 20 year old BFI suit and shorts. It serves the purpose and since it's the newest suit I've ever footed in, I have nothing to compare it to. My similar vintage shorts don't really have any padding, they just offer an extra layer of neoprene. The newer suits look more streamlined than mine. I like the idea of buying an older used BF suit for $30-$50, but am I missing out? Do the newer suits offer more comfort/flexibility? I like to foot, but dang $250-$400 for a suit is a bit much in this economy.

I saw some shorts advertised that looked like they offered alot more butt padding. What do you guys think? I also like the idea of a sleeveless suit as the one I currently have is a short sleeve suit and is a bitch to remove.

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I guess they only changed the colour, from fluo to more pastels lol.
And the usage of fancier materials, rubber inserts etc! probably they are more comfortable, etc.
I´m looking for something that will last a few seasons more than my actual, before the inner padding start to fall apart inside and make bulk in odd places!
I want something tough...

on the shorts I have the BI and they have some padding. I´ve seen some 15 yo and they had the same padding and are identicals to the ones i have.

My first suit was a casad I bought in the early 90´s...it was never used to BF..and it was stored most of its life in the attic. the neoprene rotted, only lasted a few month when i started to use it frequently.
There are some nice pictures in the first stages of the thread! LOL

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my guess is you will foot the same in a $30 or a $300 suit! might be a little more comfy on the 300 one though!
40 years ago they footed with none so go figure!
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