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ononewheel wrote: OverMyHead wrote: I have been searching the internet and can't find anything about republicans meeting at marthas vineyard. Oops.   I guess I did not clearly state what I meant. Romney came out with a comment criticizing the president for vactioning in the vineyard, when he was hosting a republican fund raising event the same weekend on the same vineyard. Yeah, I know he isn't the president but come on.

You miss stated very clearly

Psst...
The republican convention is in Martha's vineyard at the same time barack is there. Maybe that is why the Repubs. are so bent about Barack being there. Hyprocracy my friend....

A republican convention is little different than Mitt doing a fund raiser in his own state. Are you going to blame a guy for looking for funds in Marthas Vinyard... Come on. If you want to pick corn you dont go to a bean field, you go where the corn is.

OverMyHead wrote: ononewheel wrote: OverMyHead wrote: I have been searching the internet and can't find anything about republicans meeting at marthas vineyard. Oops.   I guess I did not clearly state what I meant. Romney came out with a comment criticizing the president for vactioning in the vineyard, when he was hosting a republican fund raising event the same weekend on the same vineyard. Yeah, I know he isn't the president but come on. You miss stated very clearly Psst... The republican convention is in Martha's vineyard at the same time barack is there. Maybe that is why the Repubs. are so bent about Barack being there. Hyprocracy my friend.... A republican convention is little different than Mitt doing a fund raiser in his own state. Are you going to blame a guy for looking for funds in Marthas Vinyard... Come on. If you want to pick corn you dont go to a bean field, you go where the corn is.

Yeah, but I don't curse the cornfield at the same time.

OverMyHead wrote: phospher wrote: But have you guys read this yet? Un-fing real!! http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-21/wall-street-aristocracy-got-1-2-trillion-in-fed-s-secret-loans.html The fed has got to go. Our govt has no reason to interfear with private business, the problem is they get entagled trying to regulating them and then dont want to look bad when their regulations dont work, so they bail them out. This is not what our govt was designed to do. Companies that cannot figure it out should go under, we will all be better off when the strongest survive.

Here is where you and I differ. You want the companies to "be" us. I want the Gov. to "be" us. We are the government after all, it has just been the companies have become the gov., and we have no control over the companies. That is sort of a mouthful, but think it clearly sums it up.

This was something our forefathers had thought about and it is very clear what they thought of monopolies.

ononewheel wrote: Here is where you and I differ. You want the companies to "be" us. I want the Gov. to "be" us. We are the government after all, it has just been the companies have become the gov., and we have no control over the companies. That is sort of a mouthful, but think it clearly sums it up. This was something our forefathers had thought about and it is very clear what they thought of monopolies.

To me its all about power, power corrupts and so it needs to be minimized and spread. Our government has a monopoly on so many areas of our life. Services, education, entitlements...... When the govt grows it becomes its own entity. People can live in DC and be disconnected from the real world..or us. certainly there is some big money influencing government including buisness and labor. There is a balance in that. It would be nice to not have influence in washington but then we would not have a check on washington also. The interests of business are purer closer to mine than the interests of government (tax spend, rinse and repeat).

all you have to do is a little research on these offshore companies and simply boycott them, oh yeah....quit fcn shopping at Walmart too, whens the last time anyone here went down to the local hardware store? good ole mom and pop place that new your name?
we remember 9-11 but our memories fade from 12-7, its not about that, but the feelings are sure strong about 9-11...wher did we lose our allegience?

BuffaloBFN wrote:

And Dave, or Buffalo or David, dont mess with oner or phosper. They get there info from people like from the full fledge liberal media of Larry King, and the quir Don Lemon, and the homo himmself Piers Morgan...

skicat2001 wrote: And I bet oner and Phosher think we landed on the moon??? DOH!!

You don't think we landed on the moon?

Well maybe there was no way in 1968...which is why we had to wait till 1969.

Everyone knows NASA and Walt Disney put that whole show on in the desert.

skicat2001 wrote: C-Bass wrote: skicat2001 wrote: And I bet oner and Phosher think we landed on the moon??? DOH!! You don't think we landed on the moon? Not the first time. No way no how in 1968 I believe. There is a great video posted by NASA I will find it and put it up here after while.

Your Texas education really shines! Read, and educate yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

OverMyHead wrote: And you think this is the argument that will win people over to your side? Please stop helping.

Thought you guys may enjoy this. See any parallels to our country??

The ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
This one is a little different.
Two Different Versions.
Two Different Morals.

OLD VERSION:
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house, and
laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.
The grasshopper has no food or shelter,
so he dies out in the cold.

MORAL OF THE OLD STORY:

Be responsible for yourself!

MODERN VERSION:
The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house,
and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering grasshoppercalls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving.

CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC
show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with
a table filled with food.
America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is
allowed to suffer so?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah
with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy BeingGreen.'

ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, We Shall Overcome.

Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright
has the group kneel down to pray for thegrasshopper's sake.

President Obama condemns the ant
and blames President Bush, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and thePope for the grasshopper's plight.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the anthas
gotten rich off the back of thegrasshopper,
and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share.

Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper Act
retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and,
having nothing left to pay his retroactive
taxes, his home is confiscated by thegovernment Green Czar and given to thegrasshopper.

The story ends as we see the grasshopperand his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around them because thegrasshopper doesn't maintain it.

The ant has   disappeared in the snow,
never to be seen again.

The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang ofspiders who terrorize and ramshackle the once prosperous and peaceful, neighborhood.

The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest
of the free world with it.

MORAL OF THE STORY:

Be careful how you vote in 2012.

davidg wrote: Thought you guys may enjoy this. See any parallels to our country?? The ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER This one is a little different. Two Different Versions. Two Different Morals. OLD VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house, and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold. MORAL OF THE OLD STORY: Be responsible for yourself! MODERN VERSION: The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house, and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshoppercalls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving. CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy BeingGreen.' ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, We Shall Overcome. Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray for thegrasshopper's sake. President Obama condemns the ant and blames President Bush, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and thePope for the grasshopper's plight. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the anthas gotten rich off the back of thegrasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by thegovernment Green Czar and given to thegrasshopper. The story ends as we see the grasshopperand his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around them because thegrasshopper doesn't maintain it. The ant has   disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang ofspiders who terrorize and ramshackle the once prosperous and peaceful, neighborhood. The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it. MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote in 2012.

Oh my God....


Please, please, please, tell me of ONE rich republican, this has happened to.

That was awfully long winded for a story filled with, possibilities of what republicans think is happening.


One just needs to look at Verizon. A company with profits in the billions, was resistant to pay the employees a living wage.

I know your comment is going to be, "if the employees do not like it, they can go work elsewhere".

If that is the case, I really at this point do not know what I can possibly say to you, except when does owning a company entitle you to record profits, and screw the employees and customers that brought you that wealth. oh, I know, if you do not like it, screw you I will take my company to China.

You say you are against the Gov. getting the wealth through taxes, and if your comment is like I quoted above, I cannot think your only explanation to get the money out of the corporations hand is to get rid of the uncertainty.