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    Posted: October-04-2011 at 1:42am
Well, I haven’t made as much progress on the Mustang as I wanted too, but I have been busy getting the garage ready to stuff a boat into it for my winter project.

Here are a couple pics of the garage after 2 weeks of cleaning and finishing projects (massive bolt rack)…





I also managed to build a motor stand and yank the motor out on Sunday…




Tonight I pulled up the poorly executed deck replacement; it only took about 30 seconds…

I also started removing the venting and wiring from the hull. I them removed the throttle and trans cables from the Morse controls. Can anyone give me a tip on removing the Morse controls themselves? I took the 3 bolts out, but I assume I need to remove something from the back as well???

I have no idea what is wrong with the first and last pic, I have had problems with this site and photobucket before. Any suggestions?

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Looks like you got a great place to work in Mike. Go here on page 9. You have to go to the back side of it and remove the cables and levers and then the rear plate that the cables mount to.Keep track of how and what direction and what cables mount to where.
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Mike,
It looks like you have a slighly older version of the blast cabinet I just picked up off ebay. Your lighting and viewing window is different. Mine leaks all over but, it was cheap!! (except for the shipping) One of these days, I'm going to have to caulk all the seams or, coat the complete inside with truck bed liner. The liner will also protect the rather thin sheet metal as well.

Keep us posted on the boat project.


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Thanks for the link, Ill try and get it removed tonight

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Ya, that thing works great except for leaking like crazy. I told myself I wouldent use it again until I sealed all the seams. I also want to add a mobile base to it so I can roll it outside to keep what does leak out of the garage.


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Here you go Pete, J on this list. It's 4.95 in my new catalog
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Here you go Pete, J on this list. It's 4.95 in my new catalog

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Thanks for the idea but I'm not taking that damn thing apart again!! I say again because I wasn't paying attention and ended up with the top mounted so the window was on the high side. There are HUNDREDS of screws, nuts, and washers and to get the top off, the ends and legs had to be completely removed. I was not happy!! I'm going with the truck bed liner!


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cant you weld the seams?
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Only down side would the darkness of the interior.Do they make lite colored liner colors? My cabinet is lite gray inside which lets the light "bounce" around,it never seems you have too much. Peter that would be overkill and hard to do now and you would still have the screws to contend with,it would be hard to weld them all up
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yeah i get it now its not just the seams its where the screws have worn out too ?
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Peter,
When was the last time you welded 16 ga. powder coated steel?? Can you say warp-age?


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So hopefully this weekedend I will get the chance to lift the boat off its trailer and place it on a dolly. When doing this would you all suggest using a strap under the hull or the lifting rings on the bow and stern?

I am a little hesitant to use the lifting rings on a 43 year old boat. Has anyone had a bad experiance doing so?

Also, the engine, deck and foam have been removed.

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Mike,
We have seen some lifting ring mounts in pretty bad shape especially the aft. Take a close look at them. But, with the engine out, the hull really isn't that heavy.


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I havent done an update in quite some time so this will be a long one...
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I have built an engine cradle, pulled the motor, cut out the floor, dug out the foam, built a boat cradle, lifted the boat off the trailer, made a template of the stringers, and removed the stringers. Below are some pics of my progress.




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Looks like a good setup for removing the boat from the trailer.
I have one question though...
Looks like you lifted the boat and removed the trailer in the large
area of the drive but the boat is sitting on the cradle in what looks
to be the smaller driveway ??? I do not see wheels under the cradle.
Did you pick it up and slide it over there and that is the reason for
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Looks like you have made a lot of progress. I will be watching this closely, I like the 65-79 Mustangs very much. Looks like you have skills.
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looking very good
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Thanks Jonh B and mrinboard, as far as skills go I get by, I had a test run on a Bayliner type and learned alot.

see here:
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=381565

That was before I discovered correctcraftfan. Too many experts on iboats for me.

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There are casters on the cradle. If you look close in the second to last pic you will see them in the corners. I mounted them as low as to have a low center of gravity and be more stable. Its rock solid.

I can easily move it in and out of the garage by myself. Also, the pic of the muscle man was my help; im much better looking, lol.


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Originally posted by mountaineerminer mountaineerminer wrote:

There are casters on the cradle. If you look close in the second to last pic you will see them in the corners. I mounted them as low as to have a low center of gravity and be more stable. Its rock solid.

Outstanding idea. You are thinking ahead.....
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That cradle is excellent. I am going to steal the design (unless you have it patented- in that case I am still going to steal it). Nice job so far.

Are those upright pieces holding the bunk boards half lapped to the cross pieces (confusing question..huh???)
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Thanks Critter

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Yes, i actually had a phone conversation with a freind back in WV about that tonight. I felt that using a rabbet I would gain not only mechanical strength of the bolts and glue, but off the wood itself. The end result was very solid.

It did take some time and would not have been possible without a good cross-cut sled on the table saw with a dado blade.
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Time for an update....

I left one pic off from this weekend, cutting the stringers out! This was much easier than the last boat I worked on, it took about an hour with an angle grinder and a sawzall. After doing this job once you learn a lot of tricks.



I forgot to take more pictures, but I have spent about an 2 hours this week grinding down the hull – this is the miserable part of the job. I plan to finish grinding this weekend. The short days are killing my productivity but daylight savings time should help for a little!

A lot of guys like to leave the stringer in one piece so a template can be made from it. In this case the center was completely rotted away. This is why I made a good template on cad and plotted it full size. Here you can see the wrinkled one I threw away after making some adjustments too it. I’ll plot out a new set tomorrow. The outer stringers where in good enough shape to use as a template; although a little water-logged.



I will be making the stringers out of ¾” AC plywood. The outers will be a single width piece and the inners will be two laminated to get to the 1 ½” size used from the factory. To get the required length I have decided to lap the plywood 6” and join the two halves with thickened epoxy. I used fast set epoxy mixed with colloidal silica.




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I love the updates.
The steering wheel from my 69 that you were interested in is rusty. I don't know how you could replate it. The plastic is molded onto the metal.
BTW, I'm not a nascar fan, but if I ever went to see a race it would be at your hometown track.
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Thanks John!

Ive lived in Bristol for about a year now and that was the first time I went to a Bristol race; now I know why everyone loves that track!

On the wheel I can be pretty creative! But more so I am interested in your console; especially since I found controls with knobs and cables!
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I will be making the stringers out of ¾” AC plywood. The outers will be a single width piece and the inners will be two laminated to get to the 1 ½” size used from the factory. To get the required length I have decided to lap the plywood 6” and join the two halves with thickened epoxy. I used fast set epoxy mixed with colloidal silica.

Yikes, better keep reading up on proper stringer jobs before buying any material!
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Hey Mike if your console has the factory knobs can you measure them for me? Thanks
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Hey Mike if your console has the factory knobs can you measure them for me? Thanks

I can bring my console by when I come to see your boat if you like. The only knob is the pull for the lid though.
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Originally posted by mountaineerminer mountaineerminer wrote:


I will be making the stringers out of ¾” AC plywood. The outers will be a single width piece and the inners will be two laminated to get to the 1 ½” size used from the factory. To get the required length I have decided to lap the plywood 6” and join the two halves with thickened epoxy. I used fast set epoxy mixed with colloidal silica.

Yikes, better keep reading up on proper stringer jobs before buying any material!

I agree that you should be doing more reading. If you follow through with using the ply, you had better figure on doubling up the glass layup to compensate for the weak ply. Remember, every other layer of veneer in ply is in the vertical. This is not what you want. LVL would have been a better choice since with all of it's veneers, the grain runs the length. Plus, no weak point at the splice.


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