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juniorwoody 
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 Posted: November-27-2011 at 4:26pm |
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http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26147&p=262988#p262988
Any interested in problems which can occur from use of substitute ply for marine ply may find this topic interesting. |
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bbishop1974
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 1:09am |
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interesting.seems like they were having problems with ply thatonly had epoxy and was being bent.they all seem to say everything that had glass held up fine.the only comment on glue i saw was in reference to not being able to be bent.how come there's no good fishing and fellowshiping talk on this site
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 11:09am |
Jack, I don't feel you are comparing "apples to apples" here. Again, please understand we are talking about ply with glass on it for a floor in a no foam hull and some bulkheads and not hull sides or bottom. As mentioned, CC used Fir ply for it's painted hull sides and bottom. I have NO problems with the typical Fir checking problem since it was CPES'd and this is without glass. Fir ply no matter what grade it is, will check. The poster should have used some CPES to bind the outer layer of Fir veneer together. |
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juniorwoody
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 11:48am |
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Pete, could you provide me with some information to back up the statement that CC used fir ply in hull construction. Mine appears to be mahogany even on the painted sections. I just find it hard to believe they would cut that corner particularly back in the 50's when mahogany was more readily available. Most problems occur where there is an intrusion on the material such as holes made for fasteners and exhaust etc.
I made no effort of comparison to anything, simply, I wanted to share the information as informative. It is up to the reader to decide as to it's relevance to their project. |
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juniorwoody
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 11:59am |
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Hey bishop,
It would appear that the fir with a layer of cloth will suit your needs. As a matter of exercise only I would suggest that you price the cost to purchase and send ply to your home from Bateau. It may well exceed the budget. Just good to know the difference to make an informed decision. The forum at Bateau is a good one. Though I haven't participated I shall as soon as I start the building of a Phantom 18. I ,purchased the plans and marine ply to build her before my son found the 1950 CC we are currently working on. as with this site, I have found the members for the most part are very willing to share and always mean the best with their advice. I do enjoy reading about their fishing adventures also. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 12:49pm |
Jack, I have nothing in writing. All I know is my Atom is Fir, Billy's Dart is Fir, a friend of mine has 3 CC's and his painted hull is Fir plus, when I was working at Watercraft Sales back in the late 60's early 70's, I repaired 2 painted CC's and they were Fir. I still feel your hull sides had a bright area from the factory and the reason for the Mahogany. |
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Riley
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 1:10pm |
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If exterior fir plywood and the same size/grade in marine plywood were the same price, would marine plywood be the better choice?
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 2:16pm |
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Bruce,
I really don't see what would be gained since I really don't consider the floor as a major structural component, Yes it adds to the hull but not much. Yes, it would be nice if the marine would be the same price! |
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bbishop1974
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Posted: November-28-2011 at 2:55pm |
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junoir woody,thanks for sharing info.i appreciate all input,knowledge is power.i did learn from your link,thank you.i was just poking fun at the god reference in one of the posts.when people feel the nedd to inject a little faith into everything it gets under my skin,i hope i dont offend.thanks again.
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