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skicat2001
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I will be glad to give him that one accomplishment. Give it to him. But other than that, WORST PRESIDENT EVERRRRRR!!! |
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Sounds like you've resigned yourself to the fact that Obama is going to get a second term. I think you're probably right on that.
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skicat2001
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Yes we do. Dont raise taxes!!Dont force or use federal goverment over our liberty or freedom. Quit kissing the Afganstains asses. Quit going against the foundations of America, the U.S Constitution. He ruined the healthcare system and education is now non affordable. And QUIT BANKRUPPTING AMERICA!! |
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So Obama had Bin Laden killed to insure a second term???? Wow what is in that KoolAid? ROFLMAO
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GlassSeeker
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Commander-in-Chief mean anything to you? Osama was killed under orders from President Obama.
spin it however you like it won't change the facts. Nor make you right. |
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skicat2001
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You dam right... |
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I do know the role. I also know that the ground work for the "capture / kill" was in place prior to Obama's administration. He was in the right place at the right time. I believe with the current administration's numbers being at a all time low, the decision to go in risking both soft and hard assets was a "all in" move to save any chance of a second term. The U.S. military deserves all the credit and pretty much handed to him. He would have to have big balls to take any credit for that in any upcoming debate.
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GlassSeeker
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You mean like when former President Bush announced
"Mission Accomplished" ??????????????????????? Bin Laden is feeding the fish. DEAD. Bush couldn't do it. Obama did it. Apparently you do not know the role of the President of the United States of America. |
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No, he just took credit for it. |
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He certainly fixed Osama Bin Laden
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skicat2001
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You got that right my friend. And Obama has always got a plan. "i GOT A PLAN TO FIX ALL THIS"! He coundlnt fix a flat tire.. |
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eric lavine
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omh, thats everything your against??????? your democratic values are sprouting
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[QUOTE=eric lavine]
but again, laws laws laws, which is a form of regulation and it is needed...if we didnt have laws or regulations, we still would be in horse and buggors QUOTE] Which law was it that made Henry Ford invent the assembly line. More likely they woiuld be bailing oit the buggy whip manufacturers. |
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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harddock
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Riley, I think I have seen some public trans buses thet run on CNG. in MA
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Riley
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I was un Utah last week and parked next to a late model Suburban that ran on CNG (compressed natural gas), Hydrogen and E85. He had tanks under the truck and in the back. I also saw an electric charging station in front of a drug store for electric cars. I was told that CNG costs about half what regular gas does. We don't have anything like that in the north northeast.
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MattB
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Just to make you guys feel better according to "The AA" the average price in the UK now stands at £1.35 per liter for standard unleaded (95 ron)!
1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litres £1.35 * 3.78541178 = £5.11 (rounded) per US gallon !!!! current exchange rate (from Xe.com) 1 GBP = 1.59400 USD £5.11 * 1.59400 = $8.15(rounded) per gallon What is being done in the UK about this.....errrm that would be NOTHING!!! Most people are limiting the use of thier cars not taking unnecessary trips, personally I have reduced my speed which enables me to eek out an extra days commute per week from a tank of fuel which effectively saves me about £200 per month which should go a little way to keeping the boat running this summer :) |
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eric lavine
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anything you atomize, burns
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eric lavine
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is it possible that a woman could power her own car?
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uk1979
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This will make you smile Eric,the US leads the world in this Yeast Gas now if they were to change the beer yeast gene.....so you can drink and then wee in the tank
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eric lavine
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when one pumps, one creates a void, drilling is not that easy.
when you pull that crude out of the ground you have to replace it with another liquid..they are having problems up here in Ohio with shale deposits and fracking, its creating earthqaukes? but they hydraulically force the LNG out with water... damn, i did see a show on coal being transformed into a viable useable fuel for transportation, not steam, but a burnable combustion engine...I think we would all be surprised if they said thats it, the oil is gone...***************, you buy a Ipad 2, and three weeks later the 3 is out...thats how things work, the most precious delicate thing in this country is our economy....wouldnt be to good if you bought a car at 16 and it lasted you until you died, its designed like a cornfield, plow it under, grow it again, as it evolves it should be of better qaulity and qaunity. we know right now you can plug a car in at night for 2 bucks and get back and forth to work, humans adapt pretty easily. these car companies are geared up for the 34mpg standards, they are not standing around waiting for the law to come into effect... but again, laws laws laws, which is a form of regulation and it is needed...if we didnt have laws or regulations, we still would be in horse and buggies toten 6 shooters |
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harddock
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Liberals are either too busy blaming Bush or patting each other on the back for the well done Obama. |
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Interesting that Canada does not want a pipeline to run west to BC
Canada not too thrilled about pipeline run through Canada to coast |
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JoeinNY
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I thought liberals were supposed to be the whiney ones, how come is is always the repubs on here bitchin?
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Hmmm Bakken didn't pay anybody off (see list of lobbyists) wonder if that has anything to do with delaying Keystone XL? Maybe the US really does want to make sure the pipeline is as safe as it can possibly be?
bakkenlink pipeline I know it's a lot of reading, imagine what it's like to be a politician. |
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Jamin, You are absolutely wrong. As I posted above we have a department of energy, and it was set up to give us affordable energy and keep us competitive in the world market. That was 45 years ago, and just like most the other government we fund they are bad at their job. They have a mission, if they do not want to do it then lets at least stop funding them. The reality is that gas does not cost $10 a gallon to produce and supply, people in Europe are forced to pay that because of government social engineering, and that is one of the reasons the US economy left Europe in the dust, at least until we decided to copy their ineffective model rather than stick to the one that made us famous. This country is not Europe, we can fit most of their countries inside most of our states. Mass transit makes sense in a New York or Metro Chicago, but not in 99% of the US. My reality which I am well adjusted to is that I install hardwood floors, I carry a van full of tools and have to haul up to 1000 square feet of wood at a time. That requires a 3/4 ton van. When gas goes up to an all time high, it effects business income, so the cost has to be passed on or taken off profits, which effects government tax collections. I hope you are aware of what is going on in the construction industry. We were hit first, hardest, and probably will be tha last to recover. Running out to get an eco-powered mother earth hug-able work van is not in the picture, we are all making do with what we have. That is reality. Another reality is that our president has a stated objective to raise fuel prices to make his green agenda SEEM like it is needed. He is hamstringing our economy at every turn. Minneapolis/St Paul had a wonderful and complete light rail system in the first half of the 1900's. Our politicians were paid off in generous kick backs in the 1960's by general motors to replace it with buses. They tore up the tracks, and had a giant bonfire of trolley cars. Now we are taking half of our states transit money to try to rebuild a new system because our government officials have decided they want one back again. The problem is it does not go where I need to go. I cannot load a table saw, miter saw, air compressor, 1000 feet of hard wood.....onto if it did. I do get to sit at stoplights that it overrides every time it goes by. It also seems to run over pedestrians on a fairly regular basis. As I said before, We have been told since 1910 that we will run out of oil in a decade or two. I was told in the 70'S by my junior high tree hugging science teacher that we would be out of both oil and drinkable water by now. Current estimates have us at least 50 more years of supply and they keep finding more. I plan on doing my part to make changes and it will start with who occupies the oval office and my states Governors mansion. |
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Maybe we could start by eliminating lobbies
For every dollar spent lobbying(paying congress/politicians)the oil companies get 30 in tax breaks. Why?Because they are corrupt maybe |
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How is that car at pulling an equipment trailer? or a 5th wheel camper? Can it haul a Nautique? Can it plow snow? I need a truck and so I suffer. Diesel @ $4.10-$4.25 |
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eric lavine
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well said, I drove a truck that got exactly 12 mpg, up hill down hill, pulling a trailer, doin the speed limit, gas spiked to 4.00 a gallon and i swear i was spending roughly 400.00 to 500.00 a month gassing it, my car gets cloe to 50mpg now and i now spend maybe 120.00 a month and diesel is right at 3.89....that 350.00 i save goes into my pocket and i dont miss the truck, thats for sure, i adjusted, hopefully the next car i purchase will get 60 mpg, thats whats important to me
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Anyone have a sudden urge to start singing "We are the World"???
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