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ononewheel
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ononewheel
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Hey thanks, that is what I should have said. Treasonous, that one word sums it all up. |
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john b
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Feel sorry for me? I am not the one who believes in talking donkeys, talking snakes, rivers of blood, walking on water, parting seas, every animal on the earth living together on a boat (not even a CC), raising the dead, a cracker being a person's flesh, wine being a person's blood, the sun standing still....... You get the picture. |
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OverMyHead
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John and Seth, Like you I disagree with Lee's take but I think I understand what he is getting at. I do believe Obama and our governments energy policy have the ability to influence (Not control)the prices at the pump. Then candidate Obama was interviewed by some California new paper and he stated that he would like to see energy prices slowly rise to make alternatives more attractive, he then got into office and the prices have slowly risen, close to doubling I believe. Coincidence? He has blocked drilling and a pipeline. This would further his stated objective. Obama hired to head his energy department an environmentalist who does not own a car. Hardly one to understand the energy needs of the nation. this is the agenda he listens to. Obama has stated he would like to stimulate our economy, and he can do that without adding to the deficit simply by freeing up the energy policy. My desire is to see lower fuel prices no matter who is in office, my fear is a temporary policy change in the election year, followed by doubling of prices again if he gets re-elected. I believe Lee stated in a backward manor that if Obama continues his current path people will see him for who he is.
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OverMyHead
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I am dissapointed John. I understand it is not your belief, but there are ways to express it without crapping on others beliefs. |
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davidg
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The ONLY reason Obama wants to see lower gas prices is so he can get re-elected. Unless one has been living under a rock for the past three years, its pretty obvious that Obama really believes in higher fuel costs to push us all into Yugo's and Volts. I mean, come on, that what he really wants. No surprise there. He is strictly an alternative energy guy. No big deal. Its just who he is.
My solution....vote him out! |
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john b
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OMH,
Sorry you took it that way. I support your right to believe in whatever you want to believe in. I am offended by those who offer me pity for my beliefs. I expect respect in the same magnitude for my beliefs, as religious freedom, or my choice to dismiss religion, is just that, my choice. I don't want anyone imposing their religious beliefs on me, my wife, my daughters, or their uteruses. Stating my beliefs is not "crapping" on yours. Once again it is just a difference of opinion. BTW, I am an ordained minister! Sincerely, Reverend John Beeman. |
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GlassSeeker
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Ski- For God's sake use spell checker. Or slowly back away from the computer keyboard. Set down that drink.
So I guess we are to believe that when Bushy was pres and gas rose to 4.50 then the economy tanked and it fell to 1.60---My house had risen in value to 390K and then fell to 140K---that was a good thing? And somehow it was Obamas fault too? I'm confused so confused. |
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GlassSeeker
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Religion has no place in politics---separation of church and state.
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GlassSeeker
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I kinda do that walking on water thing all the time LOL
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john b
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OMH,
Check your quote and context. O'Bama did say " I would like to see energy prices slowly rise to make alternatives more attractive, as opposed to them spiking to new records at the whim of the suppliers every time Memorial day comes around" Context is everything. |
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OverMyHead
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Andy It has been discussed to death here before but our founders intended to keep the state from declaring and influencing an official religion, but never to keep religion out of politics. Had they intended to keep religion out of government I very much doubt this line would have been included in the declaration of independence. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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OverMyHead
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Yah, but lets see you do it without a rope! |
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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john b
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I know you do, and its a beautiful thing. There is a forum here devoted to just that! |
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GlassSeeker
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I guess Gary doesn't know that the Tesla Roadster is built by Lotus in England and based on the Elise, then sent to America where Tesla installs the drive components...so it basically is an Electric Lotus Roadster. Another company Zytek also had and electric Elise.
That's one of the things I like about these threads it gets me to learn about alot of things I might not otherwise look into. |
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john b
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Let's see anyone do it without a rope! |
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OverMyHead
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John, Lee did open the door, but it is your choice how you enter the room. What I got out of your statement was what you did not believe in. |
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Rev Bob
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Cheers,
Rev Bob "if it's gonna happen, it'll happen out there!" ~~~ My Dad always said; "Everything on your boat is either broken or about to be....and you just don't know about it yet". **** |
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OverMyHead
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Wish I could have been there. |
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john b
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OMH,
Yes, he did open the door, and I frequently enter like Kramer. |
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OverMyHead
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Great visual Giddyup |
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1987 Ski Nautique |
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GlassSeeker
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There is a few seconds after I let go of the rope where I am walking on water without anything but the water and my feet and we become One .
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john b
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OMH,
I hope you have a great day tomorrow! Thanks for the conversation. |
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john b
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You too, Glasseeker, have a great day! Gotta get to bed. I need to make Hilton Head in the AM.
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GlassSeeker
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So it should be no problem then if someone in politics decided to whip out the Quran and preach about Islam, Allah etc. This is what you are saying---not me. |
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OverMyHead
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Back at you! |
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1987 Ski Nautique |
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OverMyHead
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For me it is those type of moments that convince me these things could not have all just come together by random accident. Be it divine or just me finding what I am looking for, I am thankful. |
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For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
1987 Ski Nautique |
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eric lavine
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did you guy's ever wonder when they looked up to the sky's, what they were looking at?
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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harddock
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How can you not believe in religion and be a ordained minister? What is your parrish called, Church of the Everyday Hypocrite? You wann really walk on water? Part the sea first, then walk across. |
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Unitarian Universalist Church? |
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