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john b wrote: OMH According to you all science is faith based, since science can never be proven, it can only be proven to be false. Substitute world beer consumption for sun activity on your chart and it will show that the increase in global beer consumption is causing an increase in temperatures. You choose to believe in talking donkeys and the sun standing still, but not science. Very interesting!

John, your willingness to make up beer science to support your point of view is proof of my concerns. Some might even say you are being a talking donkey . I drink more beer every summer, and it gets warmer every summer, you might be onto something, global beering is effecting the weather.

Would you agree that Universities do most of the research? You have dept heads that use the students ( your future scientist) to do their work and then they publish the results? Tell me where the money comes from?

Just came across this.... I would describe myself as a scientist who does "pure research" as defined here. If any of you ever want to poke around a university and see what it is like just hit me up. Before I got into research I didn't have a good idea of what goes on in a place like this and I think anybody who has never seen how research operates or what people at a huge university do would get a kick out of it.

Yeah man! That would be great. I have a lot of friends/colleagues in the Center for Limnology right on the water. I've never spent a summer in Madison (fieldwork is in Iceland) but I hope to get some time there this summer since my data collection days are over. Just PM me or track me down in the interwebs to get a hold of me. I am at your service, and in fact had been meaning to ask you for some time if you ever wanted to grab a beer.

Best!

Jamin

harddock wrote: John B You claim to disbelieve in religion but also claim you are an ordained minister. You haven't explained how that can be. It seems hypocritical to me as the two appear a contradiction. Care to clear this up for my simple mind? If you can be a minister and not beleive in religion it makes it hard to believe anything else you say. I dont care what you do or not believe, but throwing in that your a ordained minister threw me. Ordained to what organization?

I am not speaking for JonB, but it might be along the same lines as getting baptized before you even know what the concept of God is, somehow making you one of his chosen ones.

Or, how easy it is now days to become one. With a few dollars and an internet connection, it is said and done. I might do that someday, just so I could marry my God believing friends. That could be some fun times. It would be alot easier than being elected for a county Judge. When I got married the first time, the minister was a good friend of mine, who also happened to grow some of the best weed I had ever smoked. That *************** took me to a higher level..

How much of a contradiction is it to be a priest in the catholic church, and molest boys and girls at the same time?

I take JonB's side, no matter his reason for the contradiction , it sounds like fun to me. Dang, I bet you can deduct many things from taxes if you are a minister.

I have proof of evolution right here

Harddock he is a sick person.. And I never caught that. He is a minister and shows no faith. AMAZING!!!

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skicat2001 wrote: Harddock he is a sick person.. And I never caught that. He is a minister and shows no faith. AMAZING!!!

harddock wrote: John B You claim to disbelieve in religion but also claim you are an ordained minister. You haven't explained how that can be. It seems hypocritical to me as the two appear a contradiction. Care to clear this up for my simple mind? If you can be a minister and not beleive in religion it makes it hard to believe anything else you say. I dont care what you do or not believe, but throwing in that your a ordained minister threw me. Ordained to what organization?

I am sorry I was not around to explain myself sooner. I am spending the week in Hilton Head with my wife.
SPRING BREAK!

I am an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church (ULC), as is my brother who performed the wedding ceremony for my youngest daughter. The ULC church doctrine is "Do only that which is right". The church believes in absolute spiritual freedom. My personal belief is in absolute science, and I am spreading the word.
I don't see my ministry as hypocritical all, unlike the hundreds of spiritual leaders in some churches who offer to show you the way to righteousness and love their cogregation, literally, and are doing time for it. I try to always do that which is right and fair to all, and I follow the teachings of science. My "bible" is composed of all of the books, journals, and papers produced during the study of science. I require that anything I believe in can be argued utilizing the scientific method, and require that the results of the research can be demonstrated and repeated in experiments.
It is as real as any religion, however my ministry does not call those with different philosophies "sick". My religion is about tolerance and respect. I have satisfied all of the official requirements that a minister in any church is required to do before earning the title of Reverend. It requires nothing more than agreeing to the church doctrine and a left mouse click.
I believe this thread has demonstrated the intolerance and hypocrisy that most people exhibit in the name of religion, that being "my religion is right, screw everyone else". The Universal Life Church most likely has more ordained ministers than any other, currently around 20,000,000.
I would be happy to respect the beliefs of anyone who recipricates.
Sincerely,
Reverend John Beeman.

I am sorry I was not around to explain myself sooner. I am spending the week in Hilton Head with my wife.
SPRING BREAK!

I am an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church (ULC), as is my brother who performed the wedding ceremony for my youngest daughter. The ULC church doctrine is "Do only that which is right". The church believes in absolute spiritual freedom. My personal belief is in absolute science, and I am spreading the word.
I don't see my ministry as hypocritical all, unlike the hundreds of spiritual leaders in some churches who offer to show you the way to righteousness, and love their cogregation, literally, and are doing time for it. I try to always do that which is right and fair to all, and I follow the teachings of science. My "bible" is composed of all of the books, journals, and papers produced during the study of science. I require that anything I believe in can be argued utilizing the scientific method, and require that the results of the research can be demonstrated and repeated in experiments.
It is as real as any religion, however my ministry does not call those with different philosophies "sick". My religion is about tolerance and respect. I have satisfied all of the official requirements that a minister in any church is required to do before earning the title of Reverend. It requires nothing more than agreeing to the church doctrine and a left mouse click.
I believe this thread has demonstrated the intolerance and hypocrisy that most people exhibit in the name of religion, that being "my religion is right, screw everyone who doesn't agree with me because they are sick". Or those who choose to obey only the doctrine of their religion they find convenient, such as practicing some kind of birth control when the church prohibits it.
As to miracles I would like to ask what was observed when the sun stood still? Since our solar system revolves around the sun, essentially nothing would be observed to a person on earth or any other planet in our solar system.
The Universal Life Church most likely has more ordained ministers than any other, currently around 20,000,000.
I would be happy to respect the beliefs of anyone who recipricates.
Sincerely,
Reverend John Beeman.

skicat2001 wrote: = Harddock he is a sick person.. And I never caught that. He is a minister and shows no faith. AMAZING!!!

Lee, you are supposed to be a fisher of men, I don't think standing at the edge of the pond throwing rocks at the fish is considered fishing.

"God took a rib from Adam's side and made a woman"

Now that's what I call MAGIC right there actually maybe he just had a really good chemistry set

"The Universal Life Church wants you to pursue your spiritual beliefs without interference from any outside agency, including government or church authority."

So what happens when you guys discuss religion? Or do you stay away from those discussions?

Riley wrote: "The Universal Life Church wants you to pursue your spiritual beliefs without interference from any outside agency, including government or church authority." So what happens when you guys discuss religion? Or do you stay away from those discussions?

This thread is the perfect example of what happens when we discuss religion.
As one of our ULC ministers once said "imagine no religion, I wonder if you can" another said "all you need is love" and they set it to music!

John,Do you work on Christmas? it's just another day. Sundays? just another day right? Government should not be closed on Sundays? It is not the week end but actually the start of the week according to a calandar.

If you are a minister and your beleiefs revolves around science, and you have faith in your beliefs then you have a religion. Maybe not a conventual or Christian religion but still a religion which is different from not having or believing in any religion.

So your science beliefs (religion) has no place in government either.

OverMyHead wrote: skicat2001 wrote: = Harddock he is a sick person.. And I never caught that. He is a minister and shows no faith. AMAZING!!! Lee, you are supposed to be a fisher of men, I don't think standing at the edge of the pond throwing rocks at the fish is considered fishing.

Dave I understand and agree. Thats the bad part, when something fuels you when people are not doing right, the devil temptation is there and I still fall to anger or sinning every now and then..