Gas prices

harddock wrote: john b wrote: I lick ass because I'm a douchebag and my lies are my badge of honor! It is what any democrat would do. Remember tolerance is a virtue! Ok, we'll stoop to your level

Looks like I licked yours! Was it as good for you as it was for me?

harddock wrote: John,Do you work on Christmas? it's just another day. Sundays? just another day right? Government should not be closed on Sundays? It is not the week end but actually the start of the week according to a calandar. If you are a minister and your beleiefs revolves around science, and you have faith in your beliefs then you have a religion. Maybe not a conventual or Christian religion but still a religion which is different from not having or believing in any religion. So your science beliefs (religion) has no place in government either.

You may be right! The government is funding my religion! Better call them up and tell them to stop.

I always worked on Christmas, New Years day (both the Chinese and American version), Sunday, and every other holiday! I seldom missed a chance, and I WAS a government employee before I retired.

Do you believe I shouldn't have?

Let me pose this question about your religious beliefs and.            " doing only that which is right", my church doctrine.. I would like to get your thoughts.

The Sun Stands Still

"Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon;
and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day." (Joshua
10:12-13)
These verses imply that the sun moves around the earth. If the Bible actually represents the words or inspired words of God, then why didn't the Great Creator inspire them to tell the truth about the universe and our solar system?
Also, the Bible asks us to believe that a supposedly loving God made the sun stand still for the sole purpose of helping the Israelites slaughter the Amorites. How can one not see that these verses would insult the intelligence of any person who believes God possess wisdom, knowledge and love?

Seth, we keep finding more oil, but that does not mean we are ALLOWED to access it.

I have room in my back yard for a well, so long as I get a cut of the profit.

Actually, gasoline taxes vary from state to state .67 to .37 per gallon. Of which 18.4 cents represents the federal user, or excise tax, currently they are working on adding an additional .24 cents per gallon through legislation.

Here are the numbers from the American petroleum institute:
http://www.easy-tax-information.com/support-files/gasoline-taxes-by-state-january-2012.pdf

JoeinNY wrote: OverMyHead wrote: John, Don't you think science can find the answers to safely extract usable crude from these deposits? Science can do it, but the market can't do it without the government. By definition your free market seeks to maximize profit, not maximize safety, or minimize environmental or other types of harm (negative externalities). For the market to do so you need to either make these things against the law and vigourously enforce the laws... or you have to assign values to the negative externalities and then collect fees on those that produce them. Either way you need federal government intervention. The funny part about the crazy republican gas predictions like the one dave just made is that it was only the high gas prices first achieved under bush that things like the tar sands in canada or horizontal fracturing and drilling techniques became profitable. Growing these solutions are what Newt says will get us to 2.50 gas.. at 2.50 that pipeline from canada wouldnt flow a drop Comparing California to north dakota is like comparing the most populist state in the nation to the 48th most populist state in the nation.. only even more silly. Only someone with a predetermined opinion trying to prove it right (and having a hard time finding any real facts to do so) would consider using the comparison of those two entities as the basis of thier political essay.

Joe, I agree with most of this. the government has a role in providing cheap, Safe, affordable energy,(Note that did not include the word green) and there are less than scrupulous business men out there that would not look out for our best interests. But that means finding a balance between the to that is in the interest if MOST Americans. So that does not excuse the government to make any rules it wants or to have a president and energy secretary who both have a green agenda pursue that agenda at a cost to American citizens and business. I also agree as I stated when I posted the article that you can not do a direct comparison to Califoria and North Dakota, but it not completely without merit either. North Dakota is reaping a major economic benefit from oil production. And the unemployment rate and wages at McDonalds are very strong proof.   

Sacramento CA gas is 4.25 to 4.50 now.

The Fed should abolish the Fed gas tax turn the roads over to the states and let the states tax the gas. Right now every state has to collect the money and send it on to the Feds. Just let the states keep it and get the feds out of the road business.

Toll roads with EZ Pass

GlassSeeker wrote: Sacramento CA gas is 4.25 to 4.50 now.

That's cheap!

Chevron Execs face criminal charges after underestimating pressure in oil spill

We seemed to get past it with ethanol! You ever notice an ethanol plant will not use ethanol as the energy source to make more?

I cannot think of any application were ethanol fuel is better?

john b wrote: Riley wrote: Toll roads with EZ Pass How's that EZ Pass working out for ya in PA? The Pennsylvania state auditor, Jack Wagner says the Turnpike is "drowning in debt" and faces bankruptcy. By some accounting definitions the Turnpike is now insolvent ("broke") by having total liabilities ($8.16b) greater than total assets ($6.74b) as of May 31 2011. Wagner says only that the financial condition of the Turnpike is "extremely poor" and efforts to increase debt "will only worsen the problem." "Not only will they limit the Turnpike Commission's ability to make infrastructure improvements on the turnpike, but (they) will also threaten the continued existence of the Turnpike Commission." I can anticipate what a state like Nebraska would do with the revenue from their toll roads without federal input. It would be like casino on an Indian reservation. A few very rich from benefiting from the tolls, and the rest impoverished. Nebraska would have no incentive to maintain or improve the system since, being light in the manufacturing arena, they receive little benefit to it, but much of the nations industrial output passes through it. It is easy to collect fuel tax as a % of sales and appropriate it to the states, and retain some control over the system that benefits us all. To have different roadway specs, regulations, weight limits, and enforcement would be disastrous to the transportation system this country relies on as a whole.

Although I seldem go through PA it. works great for me as I drive through the tolls paying my fair share without stopping.

The gas tax is not fair as its based on gas usage and not actual use of the roads. You must have been a city or a county cop. Did you need the feds to help you do your job?

eric lavine wrote: do you guy's ever worry about your healthcare costs risings? it seems like gas goes up a little and it creates a tizzy?

Yea get ready for that wonderfull Obama care starting to hit. My mothers insurance has gone up another 120.00 a month, and my father, less doctors are taking medicare, which off course is owned by the federal goverment...

Oh and BTW, get ready if you DONT have insurance next yr, your tx return will be hammered by the federal goverment.

I cant stand this Presidennt... I dont know if I can take anymore.

skicat2001 wrote: ononewheel wrote: He won't get it..... I choose not to commment to lefft wing outfielders. Go to your gay rights meeting!! YOU DIG BOY!!!!

What is a "dig boy". I thought it may be some line of gay slur, so I Google it, no luck. I then called one of my gay friends and he had never heard of it either. Maybe it is a case of auto correct, I get that all the time. Sometimes the result is pretty funny.