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    Posted: March-26-2012 at 6:08pm

Helicopters can't really fly they just beat the air into submission.

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Paul - Thanks for your service, I have the utmost respect for all of you folks who lay it on the line in defense of all that we have! Pretty cool pics, that belly shot is really a neat perspective. The target camera on those things must be pretty incredible, makes it look like your 200 feet away and I am sure it was a lot farther.

Paul - that little thing looks pretty cool. I have never spent any time in Helicopters, the whole concept seems kind of foreign too me, I mean I get how it works, I just can't believe it actually does...
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Paul, sweet gunship!! Love the Steelers logo...(I lived in Pgh for a couple of years).

Steve - I've actually been lucky enough to spend a fair amount of time up in small aircraft (Cessna 172 and Hughes 300), when I was a teenager several of my parent's friends had airplanes. When I was 17 my mom talked our neighbor into letting me fly his 172, even let me try a stall recovery. That was a blast! Absolutely loved it, thought about trying for an aviation career when I was 18 but then went a different direction. Have always regretted it. I still fly R/C occasionally. Would still love to get my private pilots license but it never seems to get any cheaper

When I was 12, my best friend's dad had one of these:



He used to land it in my parent's backyard, pick me up and take my buddy and I around to buzz our friend's houses. I thought it was the coolest thing ever! Even let me take the cyclic and rudder pedals a few times. My parents stopped letting me go up with him after they found out he was flying down into abandoned quarries and doing autorotation practice with us...
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No, I never went thought with getting the licence. The time and the money involved got in the way of more important things back then.


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Ahhh! now i know why thay call you gun driver, thats bad ass!
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Ahh planes are just plain!!
This is the real heavy iron.


Here's a pic from my office before I retired.

The bad guys just before they had a really bad day.

Don't bother running you'll just die tired!!!
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Andy, great picture, love the one of the guy footin next to the Decathalon, very cool.

Pete - that sounds like fun, man I have had some bone jarring landings too. All part of the process, did you end up getting your license?
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This reminds me of my old lessons way back in the late 70's. It took me 17 hours to solo but the airport I was at had only one hard runway so all of the 17 hours were crosswind take off's and landings. At least it taught me how to "crab"!! My instructor was an old WWII pilot who I'm sure had some conditions coming out of the war. When nervous, he would stutter. My very first hour up, he told me to land the plane - during the approach, he started to tell me to "p,p,p,pull back". Well, he ended up taking the control of the plane! Even then, we did a hard landing - I was expecting to see the struts pop up through the wings of that low wing Piper!!

The third hour up on take off, he cut the power on me and I had to do a soft field landing on the only cross field strip. That was a tough situation as well since at that point, I was never told anything about soft field landings.

Man, that guy was tough!!


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Wow seeing all these photos is getting me interested again. It always amazes me how far one can see on a clear day, I'm on the west side of Mi and you could see downtown Chicago.     
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Jack - More envy here! That 180 is absolutely Gorgeous, I have a buddy who has a 190 from the same era, it would be neat to see those two birds as a flight of two. Just how does one get hired to fly an AT-6 for pay? You have had some GREAT gigs!


I was maintaining a large private collection of aircraft, the An-2 and T-6 were used as photo platforms for air to air stills and video.
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Cypress Gardens several years ago.



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Come on you guys knew I would have one to tie footin and flyin together




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Originally posted by GlassSeeker GlassSeeker wrote:

What could be down the ice hole?


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glacier girl! seen her at reno 2 years ago, conpletly restored. very cool! i to am a pilot since 82, only owned 1 plane,70 cessna 150 aerobat. cool thread
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Crashed in 1942 airmen only recently found in California glacier (yes California has glaciers!)

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Andy, funny thing with a wing, when it is perpendicular to gravity, it doesn't create a whole lot of lift. The results are, will, obvious...
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Never been in a little plane like these before. Always wanted to fly over dad's house and where we duck hunt/fish/camp a lot in the spring and fall (Green Island, IA). That'd be awesome Steve. I will definitely take you up on that next time you're...flying around
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Jack - More envy here! That 180 is absolutely Gorgeous, I have a buddy who has a 190 from the same era, it would be neat to see those two birds as a flight of two. Just how does one get hired to fly an AT-6 for pay? You have had some GREAT gigs!

Scott - That lil 150 is going to be a gem, looks like you need to make sure to include some Tundra tires on the rebuild and fly out and hook up with Pete (Watrski).

Pete - That trip is on my bucket list. Always wanted to try some of that mountain flying and a what a perfect plane to do it in, Great Shots in the mountains!

Bruce - You need to get up in one of these small planes, it is COMPLETELY different then even the smallest of commercial airliners. There is nothing like putting your hands on the yolk or stic and controlling where you go.

Mike - Next time I am in Dubuque with the plane, lets go up, you can take all the pics you want!

Kirk and Tom, you should at least give it a try, arrange an introductory flight, or if you are close to one of these guys (myself included) on this thread shoot them a PM, I bet they would give you a ride. Dave you too should get back in to it!
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These are a few pics from 2009 when my wife and I took a couple week trip to Idaho. Trying to get out there again this summer.









This one is @ Johnson Creek. You hike up the mountain a couple miles and there is a bathtub with hot springs piped into it.

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This is kick butt stuff. Steve, will you fly over my parents (and my house) sometime and take some pics? I'd love some of the ski site

Also always been attracted to the B-17 flying fortress. They are amazing.
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Whenever I hopped in my car after a flight I would find myself getting to cruising speed and instinctively pulling back on the steering wheel. I miss flying.
For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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Originally posted by skutsch skutsch wrote:

Here is a picture of the cub, this also was an 85 HP version. Loved that airplane, everything is 60 mph. As you can see one of the great things is you can fly that around with the doors and windows open. Nothing better then hearing the wind whistle through all the cables with the engine idling as you are on short final.




Steve, that had to have been close to the ultralight experience. I had 50 hp (overkill, some were 27hp) 32 foot wingspan and a dry weight not much over 200 lbs. Top speed 55mph, power on stall of 18mph. It could take off and land in 150 feet. I think it could climb at 500 feet per minute, which is impressive when you are only going 22 mph. I too liked the quiet landings, power off and full forward stick to get it down to, and then stay on the ground.
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Pretty cool that you guys are into flying and restoring airplanes. I like looking at them, but I have no interest in going up in them.
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Here is our latest project before we took the wings off to drag her home.
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Another fun toy I got paid to play with, North American AT-6.



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I've been through the "Nine O None" a couple times. B17s are all mechanical. Cables running everywhere. We live near the Portland Jetport and it and a B24 came in right over my house. Pretty amazing looking up at them from that angle. You can hear those radial engines coming from quite a distance.

A lot of people served in the air corps during WWII. My father's best friend was a bombadier and died on a B17. My wife's father was a crew chief for one in England.
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Russian An-2. 1000hp, 2 wings and a stand-up cabin. Burned 53 gph at cruise and I got paid to fly it, my fun meter was pegged every time.

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This is my 1953 Cessna 180 after restoration, I bought it as a basket case in 1984, first flight was in 1992. Painted in Imron and still shines today, never waxed. Hard to see in the picture but there is a 1/4" gold pinstripe painted on between the black and red. The wheel pants stayed on for about 2 months, it has 8.50-6's now.

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