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mdvalant 
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 Posted: February-24-2012 at 6:26pm |
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Hey gang, I recently uploaded two of our ski shows from last summer to youtube. They're long, a lot of dead time between acts so feel free to fly through some of the boring stuff.
At 25 minutes into the "SB Show 7/3/11" the 07 206 pulls off quite a big pyramid, fun to watch the inboards work. Otherwise, hope you guys enjoy! Ski Bellevue on Youtube |
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Kristof
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Posted: February-25-2012 at 1:14pm |
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Cool!! 12 people behind the 206...
It always amazes me that my little '89 SN manages to pull ten skiers out of the water... At that age! |
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skutsch
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Posted: February-25-2012 at 2:19pm |
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Good stuff Mike! Always love seeing pictures of the mighty Miss! Good to see the sport out there too.
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mdvalant
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 11:40am |
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We had to upgrade from our 150's to twin 225's...Never thought we'd outgrow our first twin rig so fast! Last night was the maiden voyage for the new-to-us motors! They got some get up and go in them that's for sure...
  
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dmiracle
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 12:13pm |
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I've always been curious about this type rig.
Why outboards? I'm guessing it's the only way to add enough HP to pull the number of skiers for a show like this? |
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mdvalant
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 12:15pm |
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HP and props in the water.
If I could get a nautique with twin GT-40's in it that thing would pull like a semi. Outboards are just more practical when you talk about multiplying them on a 20ft boat. twin 150's will out-pull a single 300hp any day. It's all about traction. |
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 12:49pm |
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I bet triple 150's would out pull dual 225's as well.
Dave, there are a few custom inboards around where people have built home made gearboxes that allow a single engine to turn multiple props. Usually for show skiing, where you need to pull big loads out of the hole. I remember seeing pictures of a ~2000 MC Prostar 190. This is a mid-80's Ski Tique: 
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 1:05pm |
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Tim,
Thats koool! You have any pics of the drive system in the tique? |
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 1:19pm |
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Yes, very cool... wish I had more pictures!
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mdvalant
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 1:26pm |
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The motors we bought were on this beast...triple 225's. This boat and motor combo pulled Little Crow's world record 6 barefoot pyramids and also their huge 44 person pyramid.
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 1:36pm |
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So Mike, just noticed your logo for the Bellevue Ski team, do you guys ever pull that Pyramid(s) (3-4-3 high) behind a single rig? That is a LOT of skiers (22 I think) behind one boat if you do...
Agreed Tim, very cool tique! |
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mdvalant
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 1:39pm |
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Steve, the logo is deceptive. For a 3-4-3 you actually need 24 skiers. We tried last year a couple times with our twin 150's but conditions had to be just exact perfect for it to happen. This is the main reason we wanted to step up to the 225's.
The most we pulled with a Nautique was a 2007 206 and 18 people. All were on skis except 3 couples. I think the pic is in this thread actually.
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dmiracle
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 1:58pm |
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Interesting.
With the outboard tow rig, are there issues with the tracking of the boat? It essentially looks to sit somewhat shallow in the water, almost like a bass boat. That said, I'm guessing the use is more tow lot's of people vs. slalom type competition where significant pull on the boat happens? |
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mdvalant
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Posted: May-18-2012 at 2:00pm |
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The Hydrodyne hull the motors sit on actually has a roughly 1ft long tracking fin under the boat. Without it the boat is very very slippery...the wakes are awful on these things...knee breakers is how I'd explain them!
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Posted: May-24-2012 at 10:29am |
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Both boats are in our club pretty sweet setups. |
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Posted: May-25-2012 at 12:07pm |
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Jeff, anyway you could get some more pictures of the ins and outs of the mechanics on this thing. It has really have to be something.
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Posted: June-03-2012 at 6:51pm |
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I take it that the 2007 206 has the 330 excalibur in it? |
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Posted: June-03-2012 at 9:43pm |
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Mike,
What is the success rate on that last huge pyramid? |
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Posted: June-03-2012 at 10:51pm |
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I am sure Jeff can come up with pics of the actual boats, but in the mean time, here is an example of a one in two out gear box. This one happens to be a v-drive set up, but you get the idea. 
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Posted: June-07-2012 at 3:36pm |
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The guy that kind of started this owns KW Show Ski Equipment trick releases, swivel skis, booms and extentions, etc….Super neat guy .The reason I say kind of started is because it has been done before just not in a ski boat application . He invited me to take his Master Craft (he cals it the Pull Star)for a spin because he said until you drive it you just can’t explain it. I will try and get video.
Counter rotating props Ability to steer either direction in reverse Does not effect on top speed 45* bevel cut gears 1 quart of atf EDM wire burned gears Sounds like it almost doubled 30 foot times as well as any other speed /boat tests that are done. The biggest issue was obtaining a patent to be able to sell it. There is a long backs tory to this. And a patent was never issued “it has been done before” (One in two out trans ) He built and installed a dual prop set up in Zane Swanks boat but the patent deal was an issue. Zane wanted to use it in a twin engine 4 prop application. He also built one for CC but they wanted to set it up and install themselves and for whatever reason were un able to get it to work. And as you see his friend Ryan built one and put it in his CC and works well. The unit that was in the CC was for a Vdrive and it was returned and is for sale $5,000 vdrive or direct. $10,000 and he will install it. That all I got for now |
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mdvalant
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Posted: June-29-2012 at 12:54pm |
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mdvalant
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Posted: July-03-2012 at 3:23pm |
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Pictures/Vid from our last ski show!
Pics This Video is the first successful performance of our "One-Act-Show" consisting of a heli with a cut under, 3 high pyramid, conventional doubles couple, and a barefooter! EDIT: Sorry for the horrible quality in the vid, it was taken by a fan in the crowd...if you full screen it it looks a littttle better. |
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mdvalant
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Posted: March-04-2013 at 2:51pm |
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Hey all! Hope Spring has you as excited as it has me! Our Ski Team had our main towboat in the Mall again this year and wanted to share a couple pics with you. Also...was watching one of our shows while babysitting it and found the clip of our 2007 206 pull 18 off the dock and wanted to show that to you as well...kinda neat seeing what these Nautiques are capable of!
  18 behind a 206 |
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Posted: March-04-2013 at 6:51pm |
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Cool promotions Mike. Love the video.
When are you guys going to be in DSM this year? We drove past that lake this weekend, man I wish we could ski there! |
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mdvalant
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Posted: March-04-2013 at 8:24pm |
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I don't think we'll be out in pleasant hill this year. Haven't skied there for a couple now. They apparently moved their town party thing to a different weekend...the weekend we are away at our Regional Tournament :(
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Posted: April-23-2013 at 12:42pm |
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We have been doing some restoration on an old Hydrodyne this winter. We have a twin rig for the ski team and this year we are building our own single rig. Our goal is to get away from personally owned Nautiques to run practice and shows. Our next club boat may very well be a mid 90's Nautique...problem is: I'll have to care about it too much.
 These Dyne's are nice cuz we can beat em up and not care a whole heck of a lot. At least not as much as a nice clean SN.    After a good buff job:   The Twin got new red lights, the single got Blue. (same setup) 
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mdvalant
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Posted: April-23-2013 at 12:46pm |
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Forgot this cool one I took this winter while out paddlefishin!
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Posted: April-23-2013 at 2:15pm |
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Sounds like there's a bit more water in the rover now, huh?
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mdvalant
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Posted: April-23-2013 at 2:16pm |
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Yea, it's VERY high right now but dropping fast...temp is still at 44 so nothing good there  Oh well...nothin we can do about it!
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Posted: April-23-2013 at 2:18pm |
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Dynes are cool but I was really hoping for some bewbs. Where'd you get the new hull?
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