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62 wood
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Gas has been 3.99 here since a week before huricane Issac. I keep holding off on filling the 40 gallon tank in my truck. Is the price falling anywhere in the country?
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john b
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Not that I have seen. I paid $3.85 in Cottage Grove Wisconsin two days ago, and $3.61 in Indianapolis the day before. I wouldn't hold my breath. Even if it goes down $.10 a gallon the savings on 40 gallons won't buy you a Starbucks, and on my car it wouldn't buy you a Snickers bar. Where is that time machine when you need it? In 1972 I paid $.26 per gallon in Texas. Looks like our buddies at the oil companies are giving it to us in the tailpipe. In July 2008 oil was $145 per barrel and gas was $4.00 a gallon. The price now is $99 per barrel and the price is $4. Where is that 30% decrease in gas prices? It's good to be king. |
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dochockey
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My mom drove a VW bug. Gas 26 cents life was good
I'm still not sure on how gas is bought today by these speculators but I bet if they had a stake in it things would be very different |
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62 wood
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John,
the truck with the empty tank is the "toy pulling" truck. I pretty much use it when we go out of town to play... which probably aint gonna happen any time soon anyway. It went up 30 cents over night before the hurricane. Amazing how it takes forever for the price even go down a few cents. Other killer, we just got our quarterly "fuel surcharge letter" from our main cabinet supplier. Looks like an average kitchen's shipping cost is going up another $140.00. |
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8122pbrainard
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Steve,
At least you aren't filling up the 40 Gallon tank with diesel!! WOW, it's been a killer for several years. The only savings is the better mileage they get. I would need to really think hard about buying another one especially since you need that extra tank that you now need to put that emission needed stuff in!! |
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JoeinNY
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Still going up in NY + 2 cents this morning to 3.99 at the cheapest outlets, looks like they rode hurricane panic right through the seasonal changeover to the "cheap" winter gas that happened 2 days ago.. I have a 150+ gallon long weekend coming in 2.5 weeks, looks like I will be drinking cheap beer and mid grade whiskey for a while...
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62 wood
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Pete, What year is your "Burb? What does it get for mileage? Probably makes little differnce with or without a boat behind? |
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8122pbrainard
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The best I can get out of it is about 20MPG on the highway. It must be the torque of the diesel so it doesn't make a difference if there is a trailer behind it nor if the AC is on or off. It's a 95. I want to see if I can make it to the 350k mark. (it's got 250 on it now) |
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62 wood
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Joe, After the first few, they all taste the same. A small price to pay. . |
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skicat2001
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Where at 3.70 down here in Tx.. And seems to jump .10 every wk or so..
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TX Foilhead
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$3.50 here in the city, $3.75 out in the sticks where it stays higher. Just returned from an expensive weekend outside of Ft Worth with the boat and a tear drop camper, pulled it with the 250 that has a V10! Only gets about 8 mpg, but my 150 will drop below 10 mpg and won't haul that set up @ 75 mph. The rest of year it pulls duty as the lawn truck and pays its own way so I keep it around.
If I remember correctly there were a couple of refineries on the east coast that were to be shut down back in the spring, and a refinery fire in CA in late August. Those things cause an actual disruption of supply, add in Iran and their sword rattling keeping the speculators bullish with all the free money the Fed is printing and we have $4.00 fuel for the boat. I guess it's a good thing the steering cable kept it out of action for a while, I'd hate to have to cut back the beer budget. |
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oldcuda
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WOW 8mpg with a pickup!! I just drove a tractor trailer from Ct to Dallas and average mpg was 8.3.I had a light load of tortila chips.Average fuel price was 3.96 per gallon.The only way to survive out here is to keep your foot out of it. The fuel surcharge does not really get substantail till the price gets up about 4.60 a gallon and if you are real carefull on fuel there is money to be made.
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dochockey
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Gas at my doc is 4.99 but it's E free
I drive a f150 just put gas in 3.89. here in MI. it was 4.01 |
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WOW,how things have changed in the trucking industry. In the late 70s and early 80s. I was in the trucking industry. Our overall fleet averaged between 4 and 5 MPG. 73,280 and 45X96 back in those days. We first averaged over 5mpg with the newly introduced Kenworth "anteater" and we were happy with that. One of our accounts was Jays Potato Chips and we pulled 45' possums loaded with chips. It didn't change the mileage much. I often wondered why the light duty trucks are such pigs. I worked with a guy who drove a V10 Ford Excretion. He said he had never seen double digit mileage from it in the 70-80K miles he owned it. That included several family trips from Chicago to Florida to see the mouse. He traded it for an Escape and had enough money left over at the end of each month to buy a Mustang GT as a toy (car, not boat). It looks like the Sprinter is pretty good for its size. I liked the fin boat story towing cross country with one. |
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john b
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Hey Gary, how long did it take the valve company to notice that their plant management was missing? |
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Bakchose
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I paid $4.18 this past weekend in Southern Maine to get the boat to the trailer. The weekend befpre it was $3.95. Gassed up the Camry on the way home in NH. Cheapest I found was $3.91. Got back to the City and the new gas station just down the street was $3.71. Arrgghhh!!! I've never seen gas prices in MA less than NH before!
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oldcuda
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They love to change the prices from state to state. You use to be able to schedule fuel stops based on previous experience not any more.What was the cheapest(use term loosly) last week might be most expensive this week you have to check prices everywhere every trip.
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Gary S
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I don't know John,but they were dead by the time they found them. How long does that take |
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watrski
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Gas is still pretty much the cheapest thing I put in my boat....
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Tubing Sucks.
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8122pbrainard
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I agree. My wife and kids in the boat are way more expensive than the fuel!! |
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john b
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But even their cost must pale in comparison to your monogram shirts, PFDs, and tubing gear. |
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8122pbrainard
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Thanks big time John!! You always have some interesting comments! |
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john b
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I really hope to meet "the legend" (that's you) at the Blackhawk show and buy you one of your favorite drinks. Judging by your Atom, fine garments, and other tastes its probably Dalmore 62. In that case I'm afraid you're on your own. |
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What???? Gas prices are high? You'd never know it by watching the news. Seems when a republican is in office high gas prices are teh leading story every night, because clearly it is the fault of the adminsitration. Now its "move along folks, no news here...nothing to see here..."
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$4.01 is the lowest I've seen it this week. It's amazing, 2 months before a presidential election and gas hitting $4 and QE3 is barely mentioned in the news.
I love the spin that $4 is the new $3 and it will be good for us in the long run because it will make us conserve. Heating season's gojng to be expensive. |
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john b
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Can you not connect the dots? This administration has pushed for alternative fuel sources and has threatened to cut of the oil industry corporate welfare. Of course the oil industry does not want that to happen. That is the explanation behind the price of crude being 30% below the record levels of $150 per barrel, yet the price is hovering at the all time high. The price will decline after the election as surely as it does after each major driving holiday regardless of who wins.. It is the free market capitalist system that we all know. Most businesses hedge their bets, you can bet the oil companies are doing it now. BTW, its not limited to the oil industry. That's what lobbying is all about. Backed up with a little persuasion its even more compelling. The extra profits earned don't hurt the bottom line either. Don't be nieve. Also, the heating season should be less expensive than it has been in years. Natural gas is near recent historic lows. Why are we not running our cars on it too. |
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Riley
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John, I connect the dots way differently than you. $4 gas is the threshold that has put the brakes on any economic gain in my region. Heating oil is upwards of $4 and will pass that if it keeps going the way that it is. Natural gas is not an option for me or most people in my state. Although the percentage is dropping, most people including me, heat with oil. A half to 2/3 tank of oil cost $650 to $800 and goes 4-6 weeks if your house isn't big and is reasonably efficient, and you don't mind dressing warm. I'm glad I'm not too old to work.
I'd love to see natural gas used in cars. So far only fleets like municipal buses are using it around here. |
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Gary S
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Won't help Bruce John. For some reason that maybe Bruce can explain,Easterners use oil for heat. As for natural gas for cars,I saw a Honda a few years ago at the auto show. Very nice concept,much better than a hybrid IMO. Here are two reasons why IMO is why it's going to be a long time in coming.1- It would take a long time to get refill stations up and running for cross country trips and the biggest problem- Taxes. If I fill it at home from my gas main how is the Govt going to collect the road tax? And you know the easist way to do that is-- put a gps device in each vehicle and charge per mile.You know how that will play out,just like it did at my old place of employment. Oh no guy's it's not for or to be used for discipline,it's for YOUR safety. People will be upset. |
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