You didn build that !

john b wrote: 62 wood wrote: hey guys, I gotta get some sleep. I hear I'm getting a free phone tomorrow! Let me know how that goes. I feel duped, my wife bought three Iphone 5s for the family this afternoon. If I submit a receipt can I be reimbursed? Good night, have a good day tomorrow.

John.. I still use a $9 flip phone(did you know they are putting cameras in them now?!!! ). 40 buck a month plan. Cant afford to go with hi tech stuff. (probably wouldnt use it anyway.)

juniorwoody wrote: True to form you red state guys are belly aching. It is predictable. Just to let you know that over here in blue country we also are gloating as to be expected. No sour grapes lets get behind the POTUS now and give it the best chance to work.

junior, GLOAT!?? wow, get some salt our while your at it.

I think the "belly aching" your hearing from a few of us,is the reality check of trying to keep our business'open and holding onto jobs.

Like I said, I hope and pray for the pres. He is going to need all the help he can get.

btw, what do you do for a living? sounds like your one of the "better of than 4 years ago"?

62 wood wrote: john b wrote: 62 wood wrote: hey guys, I gotta get some sleep. I hear I'm getting a free phone tomorrow! Let me know how that goes. I feel duped, my wife bought three Iphone 5s for the family this afternoon. If I submit a receipt can I be reimbursed? Good night, have a good day tomorrow. John.. I still use a $9 flip phone(did you know they are putting cameras in them now?!!! ). 40 buck a month plan. Cant afford to go with hi tech stuff. (probably wouldnt use it anyway.)

With the navigation feature, my family realizes more in gas savings than the plan costs. I think Quinner will back me up on that one, I picked him up for the last Chicago Beers meeting and needed it to find the Kilt only a few miles away. Also, almost every post I make is from my phone. In that respect everyone here probably wishes I had a $9 flip phone.

quinner wrote: Gotta love Ill, voted into congress Jesse, who hasn't shown up to work in months and Rep Smith, who was ousted from the house earlier this year over bribery charges. Both currently being investigated over ethics issues, wow. Can't forget about our 2 former Gov's presently doing time, lol

Proof the milking machine is putting out cow parts.

This thread could hit 100 pages. Espcially since the threads name is "You didnt build that".

That lady in mass that won the seat came out in a video and told people "There is no one in America that has ever got rich or built something in America".

Look at the stock market today. Taking it in the keester. Here comes the "change". Print more money we dont got, and sky rocket taxes.

And heard he will attempt in going after the 2nd amendment in the consititution. But will go around congress, and around the constitution and put a regulation on bullets that they are bad for the enviroment. Then the IRS can inforce this law. I feel sorry for the IRS. And on top of that, hand our enemies our luclear weapons.

8122pbrainard wrote: I just found out the bad news on his #2 term!

I am as sad as you are Pete. And very worried.

juniorwoody wrote: I am a retired woodworker and I took retirement because the last three years as an aging trades person in a bad economy, I had no work. Have you ever had to live on your own funds for that period of time? It can be financially devastating.

Have I ever had to live on my own funds? Thats ALL we have lived on for the last TWENTY SIX years.

My wife and I run our own business (started in 1986) and depend totally on it for our combined livelihood...there is NO other income.   It is directly related to residential construction. I appologize if you think I'm "belly aching", but, I sincerely do not know how I can keep our business open if construction does not start picking up. They keep saying the economy is getting better. I see nothing close to recovery in our area.

Did you also run your own business? I mean no disrespect to you, actually it sounds like we're in the same boat. btw, just currious, how old are you? I'm 58.

juniorwoody wrote: True to form you red state guys are belly aching. It is predictable. Just to let you know that over here in blue country we also are gloating as to be expected. No sour grapes lets get behind the POTUS now and give it the best chance to work.

Yes you would like today to be National Hypocrite Day. Then we could all join you in a round of Kum Ba YA. Sorry, not interested. I still don't like him, and think we will suffer throughout his second term.

I'm just a Red Pawn in a Blue State!

Do a Google on "SDW Outfitters", Someone has to do it...Billy

john,
First, I think you know by now, I am not looking for sympathy or handouts.

Thank God ,we have always lived a conservative lifestyle and owe nothing (except a little on the business). All we need to survive is our monthly expenses.    Sad to say, I think MOST politicians (D's & R's) have lost touch with reality.

I realize the building industry will never come back in my time. It's hard to set back and watch 37 years of my life (thats how long I've been in cabinet the industry) slowly going down the drain.

Owning a commercial building(well me and the bank) makes it hard to just walk away. Plus, I really dont want to.

We keep our faith... its what helps us get thru. We are still Waayyyyy better off than most of the world...and for that I thank my God.

62 wood wrote: john, First, I think you know by now, I am not looking for sympathy or handouts. Thank God ,we have always lived a conservative lifestyle and owe nothing (except a little on the business). All we need to survive is our monthly expenses.    Sad to say, I think MOST politicians (D's & R's) have lost touch with reality. I realize the building industry will never come back in my time. It's hard to set back and watch 37 years of my life (thats how long I've been in cabinet the industry) slowly going down the drain. Owning a commercial building(well me and the bank) makes it hard to just walk away. Plus, I really dont want to. We keep our faith... its what helps us get thru. We are still Waayyyyy better off than most of the world...and for that I thank my God.

I don't believe that many small manufacturers are looking for handouts, short hours, or low stress. I would like to believe that there are enough people out there looking for the kind of quality you don't find in box stores to keep the true craftsmen busy. Do you do only residential, or do you get into high end commercial and retail fixtures?

Riley wrote:    Hopefully, they'll continue to stay low until somehow jobs rebound.

Rebound to what Bruce? My kid has been out of work for almost 2 years. The jobs he can do want a Masters and are willing to pay up to 14 an hour. Luckely he has paid off his loans and moved back home. With nothing more that a high school education,by the time I was his age I was a journeyman making great money and putting it away so I could retire when I got tired of the games at 56. These kids today with their actions have just signed up to be indentured servants. Remember the Holy Grail line, Hey old man, the names Dennis and I'm 32? What happens here has already happened in England. Keep an eye on them cuz thats where we will be---

Gary S wrote: I was a journeyman making great money and putting it away so I could retire when I got tired of the games at 56. --

So, your one of them!! Leaching off our system?

these days make us stronger, I realized years ago that life was pretty easy, you gotta buckle down and not reflect on days gone by, the formula to success is pretty simple, don't make 10 grand one day and spend 15 the next, when times are good people strap themselves, bigger house, 2 car payments, 6 maxed out credit cards, we got pretty use to that style of living, and when its time to buckle down and trim some fat tear drops appear and we look for someone or something to put the blame on, we get greedy real greedy, life is short and if were lucky we will see 70 years old. I firmly believe that Obama was left with what I would consider a depression, he really did pull us out of something that could have been much, much worse and he was precise on bailing GM out, pulling us out of Iraq and almost out of Afghanistan, killing Osama, many many things accomplished in 4 years, he walked in with 10 trillion in the red.....you ever get behind on a house payment? it takes three times the amount of energy to catch up, I feel he was left with a bag of shet. Im not gloating at all here or being a poor winner, but I can see a quality and genuine personality in the guy. black, red yellow we all fall in that category somewhere and if you think of him as anything other than American I would consider you a true racist, Im way beyond calling a spade a spade because in some form we are all from somewhere else, unless you came from this land, I really would rather give my money away to some poor family where it may do some good than to fuel a rich group to fuel A yacht. Sure there are people that take advantage of the system, I probably have sometime in my life at one point. but GD, the rich in this country, the ones way beyond you and me, do really use the system and make the rules to benefit themselves and their friends, im ranting here and and as you all know my mother passéd last week, she flourished in her lifetime but did have some health problems, she left over 100k in hospital bills, she worked hard all of her life, raising 3 boys on her own, healthcare was starting to spiral out of control in the 80's at that's where I realized something is wrong with the system but no president would touch on the healthcare crises, I feel that living in the most powerful richest country in the the world that HC should not be a privilege, the more money you have the better HC you get, We all have stacks of bills on our kitchen counter to pay for healthcare and we emphasize dumping trillions into defense and we don't even blink an eye...
I know most of you are Rominians but we got 4 more and I really think we are heading forward and not behind.
im just babbling and I am not here going ha ha ha, there is a lot of good in this guy and you need to give him a chance

Eric, You are making excuses for him saying 10 trillion in debrt was to much to inherit. Well now he is inheriting 16 trillion. We have no choice but to give him another chance. But I do not share your optimism. Apparently neither do investors by today's stock market. He has been at war with half oof this country for the last 5 years. Dont expect us to just forgive him for that. It is foolish to treat someone who has declared you an enemy as anything other than your enemy. He needs to seriously reach out and ask forgiveness for how he has treated the right if he wants any help from them.