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    Posted: December-27-2012 at 3:54am
Watch it, my daughter and her husband are CANadian AmeriCANs.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:


Cans...He hates cans!!!............

Name the movie.


The Jerk, Steve Martin. To easy.
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Uh...what can of cans? Mexi - cans (illegals), Jamai - cans (illegals).

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I think Billy may have something there. Kendall, Ford Total Performance 302, they seem to go together.



Cans...He hates cans!!!............

Name the movie.
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john, have you been smelling quinners dip stick again..........
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Now I understand why gear lube has an unpleasant odor.
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It also prevents rod knock
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Astroglide???   Isn't that for trannys and lower units???


And rear ends!
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funnnnnny chit....
Al, you on vacation this week? looks like a lot of spare time on your hands.
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Hey, Dr. They aint got nuthin on this oil. Nothing but the best for my CC.
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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:


I don't want to start an argument about motor oil and detergent levels, but I got my information from the Valvoline site, which says;

"What are the benefits to using a racing oil versus a regular "street legal" oil?
The Valvoline VR1 Racing & "Not Street Legal" racing oils contain additional additives for increased horsepower and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents than regular conventional motor oils".

Youre right, I misspoke. The VR1 does have a slightly lower detergent package than their regular oils (this reduces the oil's tendency to foam at higher RPM). Based on the conversation I had with one of their techs a few years ago, along with what Im reading on the web, the VR1 still has a healthy detergent package... and I dont see any official word from Valvoline that recommends a shortened oil change interval due to the lack of detergents.

Their off road racing oil (blue bottle) on the other hand, is a non-detergent oil that comes with a 500 mile oil change interval, last time I checked. Its unfortunate that they lump the 2 oils together in that statement, as they are 2 very different products.

I dont know why Valvoline has taken their product spec sheets off the web and replaced it with a FAQ section with marginal value. Id rather get the word from the engineers than from the marketing team... this is one of the reasons Ive been using Mobil1 15w50 more and more often. That, and the cost of VR1 has crept up to the point where they cost about the same.
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I think Billy may have something there. Kendall, Ford Total Performance 302, they seem to go together.

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Originally posted by boat dr boat dr wrote:

john, while you share your knowledge, I think I will log off........Billy

Have a wonderful Christmas Billy. I hope you and your family are well and can enjoy some time together. Best wishes for the new year! Catch you next time.
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john, while you share your knowledge, I think I will log off........Billy
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Here's the motor oil I use.   And it costs less.
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I was bored and had forgotten the reason for a maximum of about 2,500 PPM of ZDDP. I did a little checking and found that above that concentration the ZDDP will no longer remain in solution in motor oil and "falls out".
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Remember, most racing motor oils have less detergent and require more frequent oil changes than "regular" motor oil, Valvoline VR-1 and Redline included.

Not true. Vr1 does not have lower detergent levels than "regular" oil. Only valvolines traditional race oil (blue bottle) has the lower detergent package.

I'm not smart enough to know what level of zddp would be considered "too much"... But 2x the levels in what we consider to be adequate certainly would have me looking for the answer to that question.


I don't want to start an argument about motor oil and detergent levels, but I got my information from the Valvoline site, which says;

"What are the benefits to using a racing oil versus a regular "street legal" oil?
The Valvoline VR1 Racing & "Not Street Legal" racing oils contain additional additives for increased horsepower and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents than regular conventional motor oils".

My research from a long time when deciding what motor oil to use in our antique military vehicles and my brothers old cars indicated that 2,400 PPM is probably the limit for ZDDP, beyond that it is providing no benefit. I believe that is the reason that Redline has chosen that level.

Here is the link to the Valvoline VR-1 site.

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Originally posted by john b john b wrote:

Remember, most racing motor oils have less detergent and require more frequent oil changes than "regular" motor oil, Valvoline VR-1 and Redline included.

Not true. Vr1 does not have lower detergent levels than "regular" oil. Only valvolines traditional race oil (blue bottle) has the lower detergent package.

I'm not smart enough to know what level of zddp would be considered "too much"... But 2x the levels in what we consider to be adequate certainly would have me looking for the answer to that question.
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