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    Posted: December-17-2012 at 6:17pm
Restoring our 88 BFN and I am at the point of epoxy painting the bilge. We faired out the bilge with US Composite Medium epoxy and then sanded it down. I purchased the Rust-Oleum 1-Gallon Semigloss 2-Part Epoxy Garage-Floor Coating Kit from Home Depot. After reading the instructions it states "do not use on floors that have been sealed" and test by dripping water on the surface and look for it to bead up.

Will this paint stick to the epoxy we spread out on the bilge? My concern is that it is designed to penetrate concrete which gives it an anchor to the underlying surface but not sure it is going to penetrate this epoxy.
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1 year later mine is still stuck, I bough the rustoleum product. I think painting the bilge and driving a car with potentially hot tires on it.
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Did you paint it over new epoxy? I did sand the bilge with 100 grit to prep for the rustoleum garage paint.
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I have no experience with the garage floor epoxy kit... but it does look good.

Did you remove all of the gel from the bilge, or are you coating over it?
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I like the idea, but I would be afraid that it wouldn't stay where you put it while it dries.
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As long as the surface is deglossed, I feel it's a pretty good choice. Who was it that posted the pictures of his bilge done with epoxy? He even sprinkled the color chips in it. It looked great. At the new job, I currently have a crew epoxy painting the floors in the new plant. We are only doing the production areas and not the warehouse but, it's about 100,000 sq. ft.!! We are using a Sherwin Williams epoxy.


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That would be me. Has held up very well and still looks great.

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Paul, no problems getting that stuff to stay where you put it until it dried?   I like the idea and am on the fence about whether or not to pull my motor when i change the heads and the cam. Stuff like this has me leaning twords doing it while i have the opportunity.
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Don,
I'm not sure what you mean by "stuff". If you mean the paint it self no it was just like painting anything else to much product it will run.
If you mean the specks, no they stick right to the wet epoxy.

Knowing now how it held up, if I were to do it again I I would probably coat floor and all for a little extra protection/seal.
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Thanks, I did a little more checking up on it too, I was under the impression that it was more watery than it is. With the V shape in the Excel I was afraid it would all run down to the bottom of the bildge before it dried.
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you can also put a color into us composite epoxy and paint it on. Did mine with the gray and it loooks great and is holding up real well.
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Originally posted by lakedog55 lakedog55 wrote:

you can also put a color into us composite epoxy and paint it on. Did mine with the gray and it loooks great and is holding up real well.
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Definitely an option... I did this on our BFN. Not sure I'd do it again, as it took several coats to cover (the epoxy is translucent) and ended up running on the 3rd coat. Adding some thickener (talc?) may help it take color better though. One downside is that epoxy is UV sensitive... though probably not a huge deal in the bilge.

I like the gelcoat option best of all!
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My first batch was a little on the clear side. I doubled up on the tint and it was great. Not a lot of sun gets in the bilge.
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Originally posted by lakedog55 lakedog55 wrote:

I doubled up on the tint and it was great.

How's it holding up? USComposites gave me an allowable range on the amount of tint that could be added to a given amount of resin. I stayed at the max and still had issues getting it to cover. Their tech advice is sometimes suspect though.
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I was thinking the same thing, I bought some tint but never used it during my stringer project.   Looks like the the floor epoxy is thicker than laminating epoxy.   Gel wold be really nice, but a lot more work to get it laid down and shined. I've been looking at some floor epoxy that I could do a colored coat and the a clear to bring out the shine some to look more like gel.
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I would say that gel would be less work than epoxy... at least compared to the last epoxy bilge I did. Gel is opaque and should cover in 1 coat. Add one layer of conversion coat (vinylester) and youre at 2 coats total. That would have beat the 3 coats of epoxy I did... plus it would have looked better and been UV resistant.

Ive worked with all of the options- epoxy, gel, paint (bilgekote) and gel gets my vote!

Bilgekote looks great and goes down really easy, by the way... but it needs a conversion coat/primer over epoxy as well, and will not be as durable as the other options.
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I wanted to follow up on this Topic! I purchased the Rust Oleum garage floor 'gray" 2 part epoxy paint as mentioned above. Sanded all areas with 100 grit. Followed the cleaning instructions and used 5 gallon buckets under the hull drain to catch the cleaning solution and the rinse water. Let dry completly and then started the mixing and painting process. The paint is very thick and covers in one coat. I painted the bilge and the floor of the boat including the plywood panel that sits behind the engine. The whole project used about 3 quarts out of the gallon. I let the paint cure for 5 days before getting back in the boat. The paint left a semi gloss finish and seems to be very durable. I did not have any problems with the paint adhering to the epoxy or any other areas. Personally I am very pleased and for $ 75.00 I think it is a great option to the bilge paint. Thanks for all the input.
Thanks.......Tom
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Tom you know we need pics :)
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