Fuel Pump Fludding Carb

Shes back in action!!!!!! Got the new(correct) starter in over the weekend, and she's running like a champ. Hate to have to do it, but now she's for sale. Got a baby on the way, so just need to liquidate.

Thanks again to all of you guys for the helpful advice and information. This has been a great learning experience for me, and i could not have done it without all of you and your expertise. Thank you!!

The ProTec is a wasted spark system, it fires the spark for the plug on the compresion stroke and the opposite cylinder which is on the exhaust stroke at the same time. So it would fire 1 and 5, 2 and 6, 3 and 7, and 4 and 8 if the cylinders were to fire in order. You can plug your firing order in to that to figure out the wiring, top row would start with one, bottom row starts with 5, it doesn't care which way the engine rotates.

OK, how about water pump hose orientation? Didnt know that about the Projunk ignition.

TRBenj wrote: jasonmac23 wrote: Ken, Thats a good idea, but the problem with that is, if i pop that cap and hit the key to see what way it is rotating, it only going to tell me what way the engine is "trying" to crank now with the starter i put in. Which may or may not be the right one, that tells me nothing about what the engine rotation was prior to puting in the replacment starter. \ Actually, it will. The rotor will turn clockwise on that 454 regardless of whether you have a RH or LH engine. If you pull the cap and see that its turning counterclockwise, then youre turning the engine backwards.

Did not know that, obviously right. That would certainly be a quick check to see if it is cranking the right way, thanks.

The firing order idea is a great one too. I did notice that the firing order was stamped on the block as well, so with those two strategies, I believe I can get this whole mess straightend out, thanks guys. I will update once ive ran those checks. Good info.!!

jasonmac23 wrote: Ken, Thats a good idea, but the problem with that is, if i pop that cap and hit the key to see what way it is rotating, it only going to tell me what way the engine is "trying" to crank now with the starter i put in. Which may or may not be the right one, that tells me nothing about what the engine rotation was prior to puting in the replacment starter.

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Actually, it will. The rotor will turn clockwise on that 454 regardless of whether you have a RH or LH engine. If you pull the cap and see that its turning counterclockwise, then youre turning the engine backwards.

Hi again Jason

Up late puppy sitting, (and trying to help you out.)

A little research tells me that a 6616N starter is a counter clockwise rotating rear mount starter. That's a starter for a normal rotation chevy that mounts on the top of the bellhousing at the rear of the engine.

It can be REAL CONFUSING, but if you have a right hand engine and a rear mount starter, the starter needs to turn clockwise.

A picture of the starter mounted on the engine would be really good. If it mounts like a normal chevy car starter, then that part number doesn't make sense.

I'm guessing that on your v drive when you said it mounted in front of the flywheel you meant it's toward the front of the boat since the engine is in backwards.

And by the way I have a normal rotation PCM 454 with a CCW rear mount starter whose part number cross references with that 6616N so this is based on real stuff that I can look at.

In your case there's extra confusion cause it seems that you have a backwards rotating engine mounted backwards in the boat, so do the look at the sensor inner ring rotation like mentioned in the previous post.

Got some pic's, finally!! Looks like the serial # is 333841. Made 6/25/90. It was hard to get good pics of the fuel pump due to its location. but this is what i got.

All you gurus missed the fact that the ProTec has a sensor that sits in the dizzy hole to keep time, it should spin just like a dizzy. I don't have mine anymore, but I believe you can watch it work if you take off the plastic top.

Haha, Eddie, I am not that good. I just happened to know Mark's 91 BBC protec motor was originally an electric pump and his buddy TJs boat is still running the electric supply pump (also a 91 BBC protec motor).

Oops.

That's correct. when installing starter in BBC check distributor rotation it will always turn clockwise regardless of engine rotation.If not wrong starter.

The Electric pump was standard issue on some of the big block 91- Footers. I think it may have been a pro-tec carb thing. It's the same low pressure pump they used to supply the FCC on some earlier boats.

The closest thing you will find to a step by step service manual for your boat is tall the info stored inside the guys brains here on CCF.com.

Ok guys, unfoutunatly the weather here in Indiana was not cooperative and it stormed all weekend, so i was not able to get to the boat to get pics yet. I was wondering though, does anyone here know where i can find something that would be like the equivalent of a Chilton's Manual for the '91 Barefoot Nautique? Or anywhere that i can find some engine specs/diagrams?

fanofccfan wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: Yup. Getting a starter at Autozone IS A BIG MISTAKE!! Whats up with the electric fuel pump? What happened to the mechanical? Electric is what you get for a 318 Chrysler according to Dave at hurrikane marine. The marine mechanical is NLA.

First, he doesn't have a Chrysler and second, the mechanical is rebuildable and Dave must be smoking something! The mechanical Carter pumps are very available.

Jason,
The rotation of the starter as it relates to which way the engine turns will depend on how it's mounted. If it's mounted in front of the flywheel, a CCW starter would spin the engine LH. That same starter mounted behind the flywheel will spin it RH(I think that's right anyway, or is it reversed????). Anyway, you get the idea.

Pete is dead on too. You're always better off spending a little extra and getting a starter from a reputable marine dealer or someplace like SKIDIM or N3boatworks. We've just seen way too many issues from Auto Zones or Advanced Auto on stuff like this.

Didn't mean to make it sound like the you're an idiot or anything like that either. It certainly wasn't meant to be disrespectful.