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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: November-08-2006 at 12:06pm | |
LOL |
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skicat
Platinum Member Joined: May-18-2006 Location: Duluth, GA Status: Offline Points: 1129 |
Posted: November-08-2006 at 12:40pm | |
The real question is did 88 Nautique or anyone else looking for info on buffing/sanding get their answer or just some good laughs?
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boat dr
Grand Poobah Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245 |
Posted: November-08-2006 at 12:47pm | |
skicat; is this forum to be used for info?????
I was under the impression it was used for entertainment,and who has the biggest tool............ boat dr |
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88 Nautique
Senior Member Joined: September-20-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 221 |
Posted: November-08-2006 at 3:33pm | |
I hope I didn't start all this. In my one post when I said I was going to use a "polisher for the task" I didn't mean I was going to use a polisher for the sanding if I decide to sand. I would do it by hand. I may just start out with the rubbing compound first to see if that will work ok for me.
Can't we all just get along? |
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5781 |
Posted: November-08-2006 at 10:35pm | |
isle 5, ask for the pads with wings.. |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5781 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 8:54am | |
Tim (trbenj)
Just looking at the photo of the shine you've got on your boat deck inspired me. I removed the windshield and all deck hardware sunday and started wet sanding and buffing the top deck. Small sample area I've got done looks great. I did this last year to the sides but only buffed the top so I still had a lot of small scratches that will be gone by spring. Gotta work on buffing the windshield aluminum frame out and I pulled the speedos and Steering bezels to have them rechromed over the winter. Should be looking really good for Green Lake this year. Hope guys make it out |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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bbrech1
Newbie Joined: November-11-2005 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 10:08am | |
Here are some before and after shots, required a little more than buffing.
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 10:09am | |
Alan, youre going to put us all to shame if this is the "before" picture!
I cant wait to see it in person. Removing all the hardware definitely makes it easier to work. I didnt enjoy putting the windshield back on, but now that its powdercoated I hope Ill never do it again. Ill be doing the exact opposite as you- Ive only done the deck so far, so Ill be doing the side gel come springtime. Ill definitely be at GL. |
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skicat
Platinum Member Joined: May-18-2006 Location: Duluth, GA Status: Offline Points: 1129 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 11:20am | |
Nice shine bbrech1. You said it took more than buffing, so where did you have to start? Wet sanding, then buffing?
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 11:43am | |
I beleive he went all the way down to 320 grit. Im not sure going that aggressive was entirely necessary, but its tough to argue with results like that.
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5781 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 12:53pm | |
Tim,
That is a sweet picture and I have to Thank PLBC for snapping it. That is now my background for my computer desktop. As far as I can tell that pic made it on to the Planet Nautique 2007 Calender, it's the only photo of an older boat that made the cut so I'm pretty proud of it. Good work Kurt. |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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boat dr
Grand Poobah Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 1:19pm | |
Kurt ,Multi-tasking is not normal for us guys,driveability and trouble shooting,combined with the shutterbug talent makes you a true a$$ett to this site.
boat dr |
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PLBC
Gold Member Joined: January-25-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 568 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 1:32pm | |
Not a bad pic for just waking up in a tent with a hangover.
Alan, I have a full res pic you can have if you don't already. |
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quinner
Grand Poobah Joined: October-12-2005 Location: Unknown Status: Offline Points: 5828 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 1:52pm | |
Alan, that is a great pic, got my vote on the PN calender.
Kurt, seems waking up with a tent and a hangover would be just another day for a member of the PLBC! |
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M3Fan
Grand Poobah Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 2:12pm | |
The 81 is my desktop background as well, comin' at me on dual monitors.
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5781 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 2:18pm | |
There's that youth thing again, Waking up pitching a tent!!!
Thanks to all that voted, I am honored. |
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5781 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 2:31pm | |
Joel,
We got so darn busy down at Shelby you forgot to take it for a drive. Have to do so in the spring, it may have a set of Gt40 heads on it by then. |
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M3Fan
Grand Poobah Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 2:42pm | |
I just got this. Hilarious. |
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bbrech1
Newbie Joined: November-11-2005 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 3:39pm | |
I originally started with 400 but it was taking too long. I personally found better results using the 320 (Get a quicker cut from it). I then worked 320 – 400 – 600 – 800 – 1000, then buffed with heavy cut and then with swirl remover. Removing all of the external hardware is definitely a must!!
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 3:56pm | |
Brad, at first glance it didnt look like you needed to go that coarse to restore the shine- this pic shows why it was necessary:
My deck was similarly yellowed and I had to be pretty agressive with it. Were you able to match the original gel 100%? It sure looks like you came pretty close to matching the color underneath the stickers. Did you wetsand or buff your rub rail? Mine needs it. Again, great job. |
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bbrech1
Newbie Joined: November-11-2005 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 5:22pm | |
Both
I wetsanded the bad spots with 1500 and buffed the entire thing after words. Make sure that you have it on a low speed and don't stay in one spot too long, because you will start to burn it. After sanding I was able to match it to the origional. It was real easy to see the yellow come off. That was the goal with the 320, sand until there was no more yellow. It was difficult to sand around the rub rail (didn't really want to take it off) |
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 9:59pm | |
Good to know- did you just compound the rub rail or did you polish it as well?
Pulling the rub rail was one thing I didnt want to do either- and you can tell I hit it with the buffer. Its burned in some places while other spots are pretty shiny. Ill have to hit it with some sandpaper for sure. |
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bbrech1
Newbie Joined: November-11-2005 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: November-15-2006 at 10:32pm | |
I just used the compound on it. I'm sure that it would look better if I polished it, but by then I was burnt out from working on it all winter long.
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88 Nautique
Senior Member Joined: September-20-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 221 |
Posted: November-19-2006 at 7:17pm | |
Any problems or tips about removing/reinstalling the windshield?
The plastic snap-in mouldings that cover where the screws are need replacing. Does anyone know where to get them? Kurt |
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bbrech1
Newbie Joined: November-11-2005 Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: November-19-2006 at 8:37pm | |
I could reuse the plastic snap-in moulding. The window is quite easy to take out with two people. On my 89, the two side wings slid into a grove in the main window. I took the side wings out first and then the main window.
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Nautique2001
Grand Poobah Joined: June-14-2004 Location: Massachusetts Status: Offline Points: 2832 |
Posted: March-29-2007 at 12:07pm | |
Tim,
I read your comments in the beginning about 1000 grit paper. Would this be used to "sand" the fiberglass and blue paint (minus graphics) ?? I have a little oxidation on the stern, blue paint where it say Correct Craft, Competition Ski Boat. Does the 1000 grit paper leave swirl marks? This is what I'm looking to buy, along with their premium wax. 1000 Grit Paper Thanks! Ken |
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: March-29-2007 at 12:38pm | |
Ive heard very good things about Meguires Unigrit paper- its supposed to be very consistent. Too bad the most aggressive grit they make is 1000. Assuming its aggressive enough to remove the oxidation, it would be fine.
Wetsanding the gel coat always has to be followed up by compounding and polish. Each successive step you do must remove the scratches left by the previous round. After hitting the gel with 1000 grit, you'll want to hit it with some really aggressive compound using a buffer. I used the superduty compound, microfinishing compound, and finess-it II polish (followed by wax for protection) to get the finish smooth and shiny. If you want specific recommendations on products, pads and tools (and where to buy them), shoot me an email. |
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88 Nautique
Senior Member Joined: September-20-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 221 |
Posted: March-29-2007 at 3:48pm | |
You could even follow it with 1500 grit before you use compound. Or if the oxidation isn't so bad, try starting with 1500.
Make sure you use a good compounding pad (wool) on your polisher. The one that came with my Harbor Freight polisher was crap so I went to the local paint shop and bought a good one as well as a good polishing pad (foam). They made all the difference in the world. Costed me a bunch though but I didn't want to wait for mail order. About the rub rail, I didn't want to take it off either so I just put some 3M blue masking tape on it so I wouldn't scratch it. |
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
Posted: March-29-2007 at 3:50pm | |
Depends on the compound youre using. The 3M Superduty I used removes 1000 grit scratches. Id rather make a pass over the gel with a buffer than wetsanding by hand any day. |
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88 Nautique
Senior Member Joined: September-20-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 221 |
Posted: March-29-2007 at 3:53pm | |
TR
But did you switch to a less agressive compound after the super duty or did you just go with polish after that? Kurt |
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