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Andy,
I agree with Peter on the costs. Dreams sometimes don't fit into reality however,keep going and decide when the time comes. I've been there!


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My experience is doing things by yourself or having family help out doesn't save any money but often you'll get more for your money.
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When building on a budget I tell friends to think about putting your money into the things you very likely will not have the opportunity to change later. This is your big chance to foam in the walls, put radiant heat tubes in the concrete and such. Think about windows quality and size. You can upgrade the quality when they are shot in 20-30 years, but making them larger would cost a fortune in re-framing. An opening size upgrade now is only the window cost. Install and framing cost does not change much. Also your trim package, if you like heavier/taller base boards and casings invest now. Same for siding and exterior trim. Counter tops get swapped out frequently by many, but the cabinets are a much bigger deal. Tubs and showers are fairly permanent. A toilet/ sink /vanity is easy. Think through what you can upgrade latter and what you can't when ruling expenses in or out.
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

When building on a budget I tell friends to think about putting your money into the things you very likely will not have the opportunity to change later. This is your big chance to foam in the walls, put radiant heat tubes in the concrete and such. Think about windows quality and size. You can upgrade the quality when they are shot in 20-30 years, but making them larger would cost a fortune in re-framing. An opening size upgrade now is only the window cost. Install and framing cost does not change much. Also your trim package, if you like heavier/taller base boards and casings invest now. Same for siding and exterior trim. Counter tops get swapped out frequently by many, but the cabinets are a much bigger deal. Tubs and showers are fairly permanent. A toilet/ sink /vanity is easy. Think through what you can upgrade latter and what you can't when ruling expenses in or out.


Well Said. Could not agree more.

My best friend is a builder, who builds incredible homes. He just started a 16,000sq' shack near here. He started out as a rough carpenter, and built his own house back around 1987. He still lives in that house. He kicks himself often for not doing the things then, that can't be changed after the fact. The biggest is dormer trusses over his garage. He said it might have cost him $1000 back then.   I know many who regret not adding the extra course of block to add headroom to the lower level.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Andy,
I agree with Peter on the costs. Dreams sometimes don't fit into reality however,keep going and decide when the time comes. I've been there!


Yep, that's the plan.
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After some discussion with the architect and starting the initial planning, we think we are going to settle in on something around 30' deep and 35' wide. We'll probably do 10-11' ceilings and 8-9' doors.

Some other thoughts that are floating around...

cedar siding (natural look) with brick or rock on bottom third.

actual reclaimed barn wood for baseboard and trim

8' tall solid wood (knotty alder, pine or similar) interior doors

walk in shower design with no door
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NICE!
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i have done a few walk in showers it is a no brainer ... put the valve on the walk in side opposite the shower heads if i'm explaining it right it is easy to turn it on without climbing in.. hand helds and non rain heads get used far more than rain heads and body sprays . make sure you keep the curb as low as possible 4" max . but if building new try for sunken pan so you just walk in with no curb..
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Another thing being considered is to fully pre-wire the house for A/V, security or automation. Cat 6 and coax drops to every room and back to a central location.
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Originally posted by Okie Boarder Okie Boarder wrote:

actual reclaimed barn wood for baseboard and trim

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Resawn or as is weathered? The as is weathered does not hold up. I did a wainscot in it and it ended up being replaced with bead board within 5 years.


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Originally posted by Okie Boarder Okie Boarder wrote:

Another thing being considered is to fully pre-wire the house for A/V, security or automation. Cat 6 and coax drops to every room and back to a central location.

Good idea. Put a plaster ring at each wall location before the dry wall.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Okie Boarder Okie Boarder wrote:

actual reclaimed barn wood for baseboard and trim

Andy,
Resawn or as is weathered? The as is weathered does not hold up. I did a wainscot in it and it ended up being replaced with bead board within 5 years.


Not sure yet. If we go this route, it will only be with one builder and it would be wood we help him get as a full tear down.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Okie Boarder Okie Boarder wrote:

Another thing being considered is to fully pre-wire the house for A/V, security or automation. Cat 6 and coax drops to every room and back to a central location.

Good idea. Put a plaster ring at each wall location before the dry wall.


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Honestly I would run 3/4 EMT from the most well thought & desired location back to a central location and leave it. Data world and cables change drastically every 7 years or so. The top system 10 years from now isn't thought of yet and I see wireless taking a giant leap, especially for television. Pipe it, and when you choose your provider have them tell you what you need, they may even run the wires for no extra cost if you have a pipe and pull string.
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working around homes through the yrs it is a really great suprise when you come across a pull pipe in the attic that has some strings hanging down in the basement
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