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OK, so I went by this evening to look at the pulleys. Took a straight edge again and double checked and they are very level. I must have had an edge of my straight edge hitting something before. They appear to be pretty much dead on. I did notice that the belt seems to be looser now though and I also did notice some rust on several of the pulley shelves, including the alternator. Most of the belt dust appeared to be in the vicinity of the alternator. I did take some pictures this time. Tried to upload them but they're too big. Hopefully this link will work.



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Are the pulleys just regular Ford stuff like the GM based motors are? Old Chevy pulley sets are pretty cheep, like under 50 bucks cheep. Might be worth a look.

Oh, and about 10 years ago at IBEX there was a guy marketing little pieces of sticky back sandpaper cut in a peculiar shape intended to be adhered to a V belt with the intentions of sanding off rough spots or rust while the engine is running. I even brought home a few samples. Never tired it though. New pulleys are cheep and happy boat owners are good business.

Then again you could go with a serpentine set up. I love mine, best mod of them all. Junk yard trip.
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To my knowledge they are the stock pulleys. How difficult is it to replace them?
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Looks like non OEM belts. The ones from PCM do not have ridges in them. I'm not sure if that makes a different but also maybe go OEM.
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I was wondering about the quality of the belt. The PO had it out on so I know nothing about where it came from. Kind of strange, I've tightened 2 times and it seems loose again. Could it be stretching?

Anyone think that's an abnormal amount of rust?
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Originally posted by 1980nautique 1980nautique wrote:

Pete if his belt alignment isn't off should we have him check for rusted pulleys they chew up belts pretty quick too!!!!!

Two pages ago Pete said to check Belt alignment!!! Two pages ago I asked if the pulleys were rusty??
So if you are looking for help why aren't you listening??? That alternator belt is toasted!! looks like it has worn down 1/8 inch on draw sides. Pulleys look like they need to be sanded and painted or replaced
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Sorry man! I made a mistake. First time ever dealing with this stuff and trying to figure it out. I thought this was the place to get help for those that don't know what they're doing?
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Sorry I came out a little strong on that last post. But when you ask for thoughts on problems you've got to try to follow up. All these interested people are trying to figure your problem through and are sitting on pins and needles for the solution to the repair!!!!

The pulleys may be Pleasurecraft specific maybe someone else who has success replacing them could chime in here!!!
Nautiqueparts.com and Zach at N3Boatworks have listings for the Chevy and Ford pulleys and are usually very helpful with part numbers.
As long as there is enough metal left I have had success Sandblasting or Sanding them and then painting them with High Temp Engine Paint. 656 sprayed on the pulleys after belt removal for lay-up will keep the rust from re-occurring
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I understand Ken, but I'm learning. I do not store my boat at home so I don't have the luxury of walking out and taking my time to look over everything in detail. I must have put the straight edge on part of the pulley that is not flush the first time and I took a flashlight with me this time to inspect for rust, since the boat is stored inside. I apologize for the bad information. I will try to take my time and be more thorough with details before I respond next time...and I do appreciate the help.
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Originally posted by jhersey29 jhersey29 wrote:

Looks like non OEM belts. The ones from PCM do not have ridges in them. I'm not sure if that makes a different but also maybe go OEM.

I prefer cogged belts whenever possible especially around small diameter sheaves. I just put a set on my 302. OEM's don't use them because they cost more!!!


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So once I get the rust cleaned up and get ready to paint, do I paint inside the belt groove on the pulleys, assuming it's just going to wear off anyways?
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Mask off the inside of the sheaves. You don't want anything on the belt faces that may glaze them.


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Update: I cleaned the alt pulley rust off using steel wool, wire brush and sand paper. I also put on a new PCM belt. It is sounding great now and no squealing! Comparing the old and new belt looks like I was barely hanging on. I've also been looking for more black belt dust and haven't seen any. I think this will hold me through the season until I can clean the others up and repaint as needed.
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