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    Posted: December-06-2015 at 9:02am
I know many have been through this problem so this is a reminder to those who have and a warning to those who haven't. If you live in the "corrosion belt", don't leave your ball mount in the receiver when not using it. They rust in!! Years ago I fabricated a stainless mount for my 95. Now that it's going to be donated, I wanted to save the ball mount. I had actually tried removing it months ago without success. Penetrating oil, sledge hammer, drilling the pin out (it was rusted in too), tow strap around a tree (all that it did was rip the bark off the tree!) and driving without a pin 3000 miles with the utility trailer without any luck! So, the next step was to remove the receiver so I could get it in a hydraulic press. Sounded simple but that was also problematic!! Four of the bolts won't budge even with penetrating oil for 2 days, the impact and the breaker bar! Compounding the problem is the bolt heads to the boxed frame rail are hidden, and aren't accessible without removing the bumper. Same issue with the bumper - Very stubborn corroded fasteners that won't budge or in very awkward places ! So, the final solution was to get the Portaband (most of the way through) and then the Sawsall out! I thought after the impact, the raining of rust particles and dirt on me was done but the Sawsall got more!!   


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Pete - have you ever used 'Fluid Film;' for RP? It smells terrible. I wonder how effective it is.
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I'm not familiar with the stuff. I'll do a search and find out what it is. I have heard of using anti seize on the ball mounts but that sure creates a mess. It's always a challenge to keep the anti seize off hands and clothing. I'll never forget (nether will my wife! ) when I had just anti seized the door latches on the Burban and then later that day we went out to a party dressed in some decent cloths. I don't think my wife ever got the stuff out of her blouse!!


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In some states like Illinois it is illegal to leave the ball mount assembly in the receiver when not towing anyway.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

In some states like Illinois it is illegal to leave the ball mount assembly in the receiver when not towing anyway.

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I'm aware of the law. Funny thing was several years ago the Suburban quit on me (one of the 5 times the solenoid driver module went out) blocking traffic since there wasn't a shoulder to pull off the road. The state police came by and wanted to push me to a nearby driveway with their front push bar. They couldn't due to the ball mount being stuck in the receiver. 20 minutes went by waiting for the tow truck and not one word was mentioned about leaving the mount in while not in use. Ether the officers were being nice or they weren't aware of the law which I doubt so I'd say the law isn't enforced.


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I've spent hours this fall underneath our Land Cruiser coating the frame and undercarriage with CorrosionX and scaling off any thicker rust with a needle scaler. Total PITA and this stuff smells pretty nasty as well. Really hoping that stuff keeps the corrosion at a standstill on all that steel under the truck.

I refinished/repainted the entire hitch with POR15 and a surface coat, looks great. However, I wanted a way to prevent the interior of the receiver, which is constantly ground to raw metal by the draw bar/hitch when used, from looking rusty and sh1tty over time so I coated the interior surface of the receiver with CorrosionX too for the hell of it. So far after 2 helpings of road salt/snow the stuff seems to be holding just fine. The bare metal just stays bare metal which is neat. It's nice that it's an oily-ish coating vs. a fixed paint finish for any repeated interference application like this.
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

I've spent hours this fall underneath our Land Cruiser coating the frame and undercarriage with CorrosionX and scaling off any thicker rust with a needle scaler. .

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Reason #10000 to move south, no rust...

When I moved to GA took my Mustang GT in for tires and they called me into the shop with great alarm. The whole staff was under the car marveling at all the rust on the undercarriage and the manager actually said he was afraid the car would break in half, I just laughed and said "first time under a northern car, eh boys?"

Pertaining to the other thread discussion, the 5.0 Mustang GT definitely qualifies as the world's worst snow car but oh what a rocket it was.....
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

Reason #10000 to move south, no rust.....


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I can think of 3 reasons not to move .. snakes.. spiders.. alligators..
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I am not sure I understand the reasoning behind leaving the receiver in, yeah it might provide some protection in a low speed impact, but is it really worth this:

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It's also right at toddler-clunking height too as they run around and play in the driveway. I do think this is a good idea and might get one: Bump Step
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Steve,
They sure can be a pain in the shin. I've done it several times especially the front mount when working on the engine. Not removing them? I feel people including myself are simply lazy.


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And then your mount and ball just rust that much faster. I always remove it. Not worth the pain in the shin or poking a hole in the garage door.
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I normally remove it for the above reasons but with the newer truck it also messes up the backup sensors and you then get error messages. When in Florida though I put up with it and leave it in,I cannot tell you how many times people have hit me
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We take ours out. Primarily because it wont fit in the garage with it on.

Several of my buddies leave theirs in and a few of them cannot be removed as they're rusted in place.


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I always remove mine so we don't crack our shins but usually do it when I get home from the river and put everything away.

Last year I got pulled over on the way home from boating because it was still in, just gave me a warning but said next time he would write me up. Illinois is so lame, I can't wait to get the hell out of here.
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I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I could be wrong, but I think that is the first time I've heard that. Where are you thinking?
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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I could be wrong, but I think that is the first time I've heard that. Where are you thinking?


That's part of the reason we've been traveling a lot this year Larry, it will be a few years before we are serious but we have been looking for a landing spot.   
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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

I can't wait to get the hell out of here.


I could be wrong, but I think that is the first time I've heard that. Where are you thinking?


That's part of the reason we've been traveling a lot this year Larry, it will be a few years before we are serious but we have been looking for a landing spot.   


I second that emotion Alan! Been doing the same thing. The property taxes in McHenry county are outrageous. Almost confiscatory. Not sure what county you're in, but, all the Chicago collar counties are in the same, uh, boat! Let me know if you find eutopia.......year round water skiing, country roads to ride motorcycles, green grass, and high tides forever.
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Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

. The property taxes in McHenry county are outrageous. Almost confiscatory. Not sure what county you're in, but, all the Chicago collar counties are in the same, uh, boat!   

Being out of Cook, a BIG financial burden is off my shoulders!!


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Got any plastics operations up there in the Northwoods Pete? I am ready to go. Trying to talk to wife into now. We got to get out of this place.

I wouldn't mind living that carefree lifestyle up there. You don't know how lucky you are. Wait, you do know how lucky you are

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Living in St. Paul by the railroad tracks. I don't have this issue even with the salt. If I left my hitch in it would be gone in the morning. I always take it out and put it in the log chain milk crate.   
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My brother, who lives in IL Quad Cities, is talking about selling his house & buying (another) live-aboard boat (he has a motor sailer in FL already).     He manages a Marina so docking would be free.

Apparently the real estate taxes there are outrageous too.
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So where are you guys going???
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So where are you guys going???


Not too hard to figure out you gotta go south, exactly where is still in the works.

A little property tax story for you. A few years ago my brother in law and I were talking property tax. He lived in Indianapolis and was complaining how his taxes had gone up that year to just over $600. I was sort of surprised that his taxes could be as high as mine at $600+ per month then he corrected me as his were $600 per YEAR.
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The states get their money somewhere. I'm not sure where it all comes from. Some however manage it better than others!

My monthly tax bill is almost as much as the mortgage.
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Exactly Kevin,I know they were screaming in Florida about license fee's just a governor ago. Another example here in Illinois you don't pay income tax on retirement checks,but your real estate taxes never go down. In Florida when the housing market tanked and the home values went down our taxes actually went down. The Mrs has talked of leaving Illinois too but I'm afraid with the roots so deep I might not survive the transplant. Alan has the right idea,drive the motorhome,spend some time in an area and see how the wind blows.
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Gary/Kevin, Lot's of reasons we want to get a move on, taxes being just one of them. Quite honestly the main reason is we're summer people and we're just a little tired of the winter blues. We'll have grand kids coming in a few years so we're trying to plan an exit from the business and things that tie us down so we can enjoy them and our boating friends. I could honestly see us being gypsies in the motorhome for a month or two each year.
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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

I could honestly see us being gypsies in the motorhome for a month or two each year.


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