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    Posted: October-30-2010 at 11:54pm
I bought one from West Marine and went to try it out this morning before heading to the lake but the plunger is not big enough to fit over the entire indentation where the pick-up is and so I didn't want to use it because it didn't look like I would get a proper seal. The plunger looks like a standard size, what are you all using?
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I bought a fake a lake, used it once. Could not trust it to stay in place. Now I just run the garden hose into the boat (get an on-off shut off fitting for the end of the hose). Unhook the raw water intake hose from the thru hull water intake and and stick the garden hose into the water intake hose and clamp it tight. I try not to give it too much water pressure. Actually did that today to winterize the boat.
Others will use a garden hose to suck water out of a five gallon bucket supplied by a garden hose.
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I always removed the intake hose and used a peice of HD clear tubing (1 1/4 dia.?) into a 30 gallon trash barrell.
I'd fill the barrell and leave the hose running.
My boat would still drain the barrell faster than the garden hose could keep up. That's why I never trusted any other method.
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My fake-a-lake dosen't fit the hull fitting at all and water goes all over the place but when I start the boat almost all water runs into the pick-up and out the exhaust.
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Originally posted by NAUTI84 NAUTI84 wrote:

I always removed the intake hose and used a peice of HD clear tubing (1 1/4 dia.?) into a 30 gallon trash barrell.
I'd fill the barrell and leave the hose running.
My boat would still drain the barrell faster than the garden hose could keep up. That's why I never trusted any other method.


I totally agree; I will drain a full 5 gallon bucket in a minute or so with the garden hose in it running wide open with the engine at idle. It will also let you know if your pump and impeller are working.
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TRBenj has a flush hookup design that you can install for under $15.

Best $15 I spent last year.

I'll try to find the link, but I bet Tim beats me to it!
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You'll have him beat Chris,I don't think he's on here if he's not at work,only then does he have the time
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Only have a few minutes before work & didn't find the original post with pics.

But here is a later description of the hardware from Tim:


Just put a tee into the waterline.

You can get the parts for $15 from Lowes.

They sell a 1"x1"x1/2" (hose barb x hose barb x female npt) tee, then get a 1/2" male NPT to female GHT (garden hose thread) adapter, and add a GHT valve. Add a couple hose clamps and youre in business.
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I just stick the garden hose in the raw water hose (after pulling it off the intake) and let it run. Never bother with clamping it tight.

I've done it this way with dozens of boats for many years (I run saltwater so flush after every trip to the beach).

I can probably do this as quick as anyone who has to crawl under their boat and stick the fake a lake on.

Although it's not needed on the Tique as that has a flush kit installed on the stern.
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Thanks for the input guys. I think I'll stop by the local Amazon Hose and get some fittings. The raw water hose is 1" size? I need to be sure so I get the correct bxbxnpt brass tee from them. I will have a 1/2" mip x 3/4" mht hose adapter at my work, along w/the clamps.
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SN,

Do you have a picture of what you rigged up that you can show me. I was going to buy a "Fake A Lake" but it sounds like you have a better solution. I'm not overly mechanical so a picture would be very helpful.

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Bought a West Marine fake-a-lake when we went to check out the Southwind before we bought it, because I knew we wouldn't be able to lake-test it. Same problem, was not at all a fit. My wife crawled underneath to hold it to the intake...turned on the hose and water sprayed all over the place but it worked well enough to fire it up and run for a bit. She crawled back out and said "Buy It!"
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I just pull the hose off my thru hull and connect it to my bucket. That
way I can see if the pump is working. To winterize I just fill the bucket with antifreeze

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Originally posted by Jeff N Jeff N wrote:

SN,

Do you have a picture of what you rigged up that you can show me.


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I think Fake a Lakes are the quickest and easiest way to run your boat in the driveway. I either replace the impellers on a schedule or inspect them and don't see the need to run a bucket to see if they work.
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I agree with your assessment of the bucket, Bruce- its only useful if you are troubleshooting a cooling problem, IMHO. Otherwise, its just cumbersome. I dont like the fake-a-lake either though- the tee is much easier.
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Call me cheap, I just take the hose off of the hull water inlet stuff the hose in the end tighten clamp and turn her on. (it's easy enough to remove that on the 2001 hull with no disassembly others may not be).

At the shop we have ends on our hoses with little water valves. We have a 1 inch hose clamped to that and we just remove the inlet side of the trans coolers and stuff/clamp that hose on there. The valve is nice because you don't need to jump out of the boat to turn the water on.

We tend to use the bucket method here because the pressurized water gets us in trouble and hides cooling issue.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I think Fake a Lakes are the quickest and easiest way to run your boat in the driveway.


Our '92 came with a hose hookup on the rear of the boat. I don't believe it gets much easier than that to run it in the driveway. Just screw the hose in and your done. No water in the boat either.
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I have a 1998 Nautique Super Sport with a GT40 and I am going to be installing one of the DYI flush kit hook ups. Here is what I have:



The "T" has (2) 1" hose barbs and 3/4" thread. The female hose adapter is 3/4" MIP male thread to 3/4" Female Hose Thread.



Shut off valve closed.



Shut off valve opened.

My question for Tim and anyone else that has used this set up, is the open on the shut off valve large enough? It seems rather small. I just want to make sure I will have enough volume of water flowing through the valve.
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Yup, you're good... Your parts are identical to the ones I use.
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Andrew,
Yes, Tim is correct plus he's the inventor! You are forgetting the pressure of the hose is more than enough to overcome the CV value of the reduced port ball valve giving you the needed GPM.


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Originally posted by Waterdog Waterdog wrote:

My fake-a-lake dosen't fit the hull fitting at all and water goes all over the place but when I start the boat almost all water runs into the pick-up and out the exhaust.


Same here
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Yes, Tim is correct plus he's the inventor! You are forgetting the pressure of the hose is more than enough to overcome the CV value of the reduced port ball valve giving you the needed GPM.


Thanks, Pete! That makes sense. The eye test just left me with a feeling that the opening seemed to small. The members on this site have a wealth of knowledge!
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Originally posted by FamilyManCCF FamilyManCCF wrote:

I have a 1998 Nautique Super Sport with a GT40 and I am going to be installing one of the DYI flush kit hook ups. Here is what I have:



The "T" has (2) 1" hose barbs and 3/4" thread. The female hose adapter is 3/4" MIP male thread to 3/4" Female Hose Thread.



Shut off valve closed.



Shut off valve opened.

My question for Tim and anyone else that has used this set up, is the open on the shut off valve large enough? It seems rather small. I just want to make sure I will have enough volume of water flowing through the valve.



I would like to rig this up on my 79 Nautique.... is the water pickup house 1" on it?
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Originally posted by Ga Sportsman Ga Sportsman wrote:

I would like to rig this up on my 79 Nautique.... is the water pickup house 1" on it?

The hose size depends on what engine is in the boat. It's best you measure.


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Originally posted by Ga Sportsman Ga Sportsman wrote:

I would like to rig this up on my 79 Nautique.... is the water pickup house 1" on it?

The hose size depends on what engine is in the boat. It's best you measure.



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Where are you guys getting these parts to add the T valve?
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