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bhectus ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-04-2010 Location: Gator Country! Status: Offline Points: 1809 |
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I bought one from West Marine and went to try it out this morning before heading to the lake but the plunger is not big enough to fit over the entire indentation where the pick-up is and so I didn't want to use it because it didn't look like I would get a proper seal. The plunger looks like a standard size, what are you all using?
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jimsport93 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-20-2008 Location: Alpharetta Ga Status: Offline Points: 1750 |
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I bought a fake a lake, used it once. Could not trust it to stay in place. Now I just run the garden hose into the boat (get an on-off shut off fitting for the end of the hose). Unhook the raw water intake hose from the thru hull water intake and and stick the garden hose into the water intake hose and clamp it tight. I try not to give it too much water pressure. Actually did that today to winterize the boat.
Others will use a garden hose to suck water out of a five gallon bucket supplied by a garden hose. |
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NAUTI84 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: June-10-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 485 |
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I always removed the intake hose and used a peice of HD clear tubing (1 1/4 dia.?) into a 30 gallon trash barrell.
I'd fill the barrell and leave the hose running. My boat would still drain the barrell faster than the garden hose could keep up. That's why I never trusted any other method. |
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Waterdog ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: April-27-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2020 |
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My fake-a-lake dosen't fit the hull fitting at all and water goes all over the place but when I start the boat almost all water runs into the pick-up and out the exhaust.
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PAPA ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-06-2009 Location: Fremont, In Status: Offline Points: 202 |
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I totally agree; I will drain a full 5 gallon bucket in a minute or so with the garden hose in it running wide open with the engine at idle. It will also let you know if your pump and impeller are working. |
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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TRBenj has a flush hookup design that you can install for under $15.
Best $15 I spent last year. I'll try to find the link, but I bet Tim beats me to it! |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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You'll have him beat Chris,I don't think he's on here if he's not at work,only then does he have the time
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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Only have a few minutes before work & didn't find the original post with pics.
But here is a later description of the hardware from Tim: Just put a tee into the waterline. You can get the parts for $15 from Lowes. They sell a 1"x1"x1/2" (hose barb x hose barb x female npt) tee, then get a 1/2" male NPT to female GHT (garden hose thread) adapter, and add a GHT valve. Add a couple hose clamps and youre in business. |
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jayc ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-26-2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 127 |
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I just stick the garden hose in the raw water hose (after pulling it off the intake) and let it run. Never bother with clamping it tight.
I've done it this way with dozens of boats for many years (I run saltwater so flush after every trip to the beach). I can probably do this as quick as anyone who has to crawl under their boat and stick the fake a lake on. Although it's not needed on the Tique as that has a flush kit installed on the stern. |
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bhectus ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-04-2010 Location: Gator Country! Status: Offline Points: 1809 |
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Thanks for the input guys. I think I'll stop by the local Amazon Hose and get some fittings. The raw water hose is 1" size? I need to be sure so I get the correct bxbxnpt brass tee from them. I will have a 1/2" mip x 3/4" mht hose adapter at my work, along w/the clamps.
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'02 Ski Nautique 196 w/ 5.7 Apex bowtie - Sold
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Jeff N ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: May-22-2013 Location: Northern WI Status: Offline Points: 49 |
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SN,
Do you have a picture of what you rigged up that you can show me. I was going to buy a "Fake A Lake" but it sounds like you have a better solution. I'm not overly mechanical so a picture would be very helpful. Thanks, Jeff N |
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74Wind ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-02-2011 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 2101 |
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Bought a West Marine fake-a-lake when we went to check out the Southwind before we bought it, because I knew we wouldn't be able to lake-test it. Same problem, was not at all a fit. My wife crawled underneath to hold it to the intake...turned on the hose and water sprayed all over the place but it worked well enough to fire it up and run for a bit. She crawled back out and said "Buy It!"
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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I just pull the hose off my thru hull and connect it to my bucket. That
way I can see if the pump is working. To winterize I just fill the bucket with antifreeze ![]() |
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Jeff N ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: May-22-2013 Location: Northern WI Status: Offline Points: 49 |
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Thanks guys.
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7963 |
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I think Fake a Lakes are the quickest and easiest way to run your boat in the driveway. I either replace the impellers on a schedule or inspect them and don't see the need to run a bucket to see if they work.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21197 |
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I agree with your assessment of the bucket, Bruce- its only useful if you are troubleshooting a cooling problem, IMHO. Otherwise, its just cumbersome. I dont like the fake-a-lake either though- the tee is much easier.
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phatsat67 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: March-13-2006 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 6157 |
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Call me cheap, I just take the hose off of the hull water inlet stuff the hose in the end tighten clamp and turn her on. (it's easy enough to remove that on the 2001 hull with no disassembly others may not be).
At the shop we have ends on our hoses with little water valves. We have a 1 inch hose clamped to that and we just remove the inlet side of the trans coolers and stuff/clamp that hose on there. The valve is nice because you don't need to jump out of the boat to turn the water on. We tend to use the bucket method here because the pressurized water gets us in trouble and hides cooling issue. |
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JPASS ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-17-2013 Location: Orlando Status: Offline Points: 2283 |
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Our '92 came with a hose hookup on the rear of the boat. I don't believe it gets much easier than that to run it in the driveway. Just screw the hose in and your done. No water in the boat either. |
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FamilyManCCF ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-12-2015 Location: Rockford, IL Status: Offline Points: 106 |
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I have a 1998 Nautique Super Sport with a GT40 and I am going to be installing one of the DYI flush kit hook ups. Here is what I have:
![]() The "T" has (2) 1" hose barbs and 3/4" thread. The female hose adapter is 3/4" MIP male thread to 3/4" Female Hose Thread. ![]() Shut off valve closed. ![]() Shut off valve opened. My question for Tim and anyone else that has used this set up, is the open on the shut off valve large enough? It seems rather small. I just want to make sure I will have enough volume of water flowing through the valve. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21197 |
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Yup, you're good... Your parts are identical to the ones I use.
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FamilyManCCF ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-12-2015 Location: Rockford, IL Status: Offline Points: 106 |
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Thanks Tim!
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Andrew,
Yes, Tim is correct plus he's the inventor! You are forgetting the pressure of the hose is more than enough to overcome the CV value of the reduced port ball valve giving you the needed GPM. |
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sailsail ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: December-08-2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 101 |
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Same here |
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FamilyManCCF ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-12-2015 Location: Rockford, IL Status: Offline Points: 106 |
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Thanks, Pete! That makes sense. The eye test just left me with a feeling that the opening seemed to small. The members on this site have a wealth of knowledge! |
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Ga Sportsman ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: June-24-2015 Location: Jackson, Ga Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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I would like to rig this up on my 79 Nautique.... is the water pickup house 1" on it? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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The hose size depends on what engine is in the boat. It's best you measure. |
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Ga Sportsman ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: June-24-2015 Location: Jackson, Ga Status: Offline Points: 40 |
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Gotcha...it has 351 commander if that helps |
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rmaytee ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: March-06-2016 Location: Salt Lake City Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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Where are you guys getting these parts to add the T valve?
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LeftFieldEngineering ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-20-2010 Location: Monson, MA Status: Offline Points: 384 |
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I got my parts at ace hardware.
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