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Originally posted by Duane in Indy Duane in Indy wrote:


(Am not a fan of EI conversion modules that you drop into a points dizzy. They tend to be flakey)
This should open a can of worms.


I agree completely. Conversions have been somewhat of issue for several here but a new electronic dizzy is the cats nuts.

I know that Tom has done numerous carbs, timing, tuning and messing around with anything and everything. A new dizzy certainly couldn't hurt.

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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Hi Duane

I think that can has been opened a hundred times before this.

It's like Ford vs Chevy

What's the best oil

What's the best oil filter

What's the best coil

Gilligan or Mary Ann

And the list goes on and on

KenO

PS Mary Ann gets my vote


Glad you opted for Mary Ann. I'd have had real concerns if you went for Gilligan...
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Pertonix module failures in the lead by far, like a log scale.

Prestolite and Mallory hardly any.
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Pertonix module failures in the lead by far, like a log scale. Prestolite and Mallory hardly any.


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Originally posted by seacamper seacamper wrote:

I am getting a bit worn out tweaking the carb. I will go through it again. Sigh.


Just curious if this exercise of tweaking involves your ear and gut feel, or are you using a vacuum gauge, timing light etc.?      If you are using the appropriate tools, it seems like you can only tweak and check so many times before you're having an exercise in futility, and I totally get your frustration with that.   If you are using your subjective senses to get this right, you could be in for a long ride.   I guess what I am getting at is that the right tools make a huge difference in getting an accurate result/reading.    A timing light with dwell, offset, rpm, etc. is a great help for finding ignition problems, carb issues are harder to nail down, but a vacuum gauge makes the idle adjustment much easier.      

Do you have an idle vacuum reading?
What is your timing set to at Idle (rpm?)
What is your total timing @ 3000 RPM
How is your accelerator pump adjustment?   

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Originally posted by Jonny Quest Jonny Quest wrote:

Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Hi Duane

I think that can has been opened a hundred times before this.

It's like Ford vs Chevy

What's the best oil

What's the best oil filter

What's the best coil

Gilligan or Mary Ann

And the list goes on and on

KenO

PS Mary Ann gets my vote


Glad you opted for Mary Ann. I'd have had real concerns if you went for Gilligan...


Now speaking of Gilligan and friends, as urban legend would have it, the SS Minnow had a Chevy V-8 engine in it and the crew became stranded when their state of the art points ignition system died on them.

The professor is alleged to have tried to get it straightened out with a nail file he borrowed from Ginger but they were so badly pitted that nothing would help, and so began their 3 year adventure.

When they got rescued, the professor set about developing an electronic module that could replace the points and the rest as they say is history.

Rumor has it that he carries a spare points set mounted on a breaker plate with him.......just in case.

And he still has Ginger's nail file too.
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Glad you enjoyed it Pete

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Originally posted by Duane in Indy Duane in Indy wrote:

I had a stumble when I would give it hard throttle from idle. Rebuilt carb knowing it was the accelerator pump. Hmm, same stumble. Even switched to another carb I had. Same stumble. Hmm again. Check timing and found that initial was OK but the total timing was not consistent. It would either not come in or come in late. Went to MSD dizzy and it was fixed. Had to replace gear with a new one as stated before. Three wire hook up was a breeze. One to coil, one to ground, and one to key 12 volt hot. Total advance is adjustable also. One can argue points or EI all they want but try to buy a new internal combustion engine with points. Good luck with that. Everybody changed over for a reason.

(Am not a fan of EI conversion modules that you drop into a points dizzy. They tend to be flakey)
This should open a can of worms.

Hey Duane, that is exactly what I am thinking.
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Originally posted by Dreaming Dreaming wrote:

Originally posted by seacamper seacamper wrote:

I am getting a bit worn out tweaking the carb. I will go through it again. Sigh.


Just curious if this exercise of tweaking involves your ear and gut feel, or are you using a vacuum gauge, timing light etc.?      If you are using the appropriate tools, it seems like you can only tweak and check so many times before you're having an exercise in futility, and I totally get your frustration with that.   If you are using your subjective senses to get this right, you could be in for a long ride.   I guess what I am getting at is that the right tools make a huge difference in getting an accurate result/reading.    A timing light with dwell, offset, rpm, etc. is a great help for finding ignition problems, carb issues are harder to nail down, but a vacuum gauge makes the idle adjustment much easier.      

Do you have an idle vacuum reading?
What is your timing set to at Idle (rpm?)
What is your total timing @ 3000 RPM
How is your accelerator pump adjustment?   


Hey Kris,
I think you are correct also. I think my skills are just not there to dial this in. That is why I am trying to eliminate some of the issues. I guess I will pull out the manual and try and remember how to set the points by dwell and then set the timing. I will brush up on total timing at 3000rpm because I have never even heard of that! Then I will tweak the carb adjustments. It is sad, because it is so close!! If I was not so anal over smooth acceleration, I would probably just ignore the problem because it happens about once in every 10 pulls. It seems more prevalent after things get hot.
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