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ultrarunner 
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Pains me to even think about it...
Oh well.... Anyway, are most folks fogging the cylinders or just draining the water and running 50/50 antifreeze through, then just plugging the raw water inlet? Thanks, Mark |
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KENO
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 9:07am |
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Are most folks psychic and can figure out what kind of engine you're talking about?
 50 /50 mix of what kind of antifreeze?
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 10:34am |
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Mark, You joined CCfan 15 years ago. Is winterizing something new for you?
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ultrarunner
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 11:25am |
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Ha! Good catch Peter. First time I’m doing a boat that won’t be toasty warm during the winter:-(
Don’t think for a second I’m still not trying to figure out getting the boat in my garage! Side load provides a challenge. GT-40 |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 12:17pm |
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When getting a trailer into a tight spot, this really helps:  |
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ultrarunner
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 12:22pm |
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No kidding!
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 9:34pm |
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Pete what is that ? A strap on on the lesmobile ?
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Gary S
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 9:45pm |
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 Just wait until he puts the Paragon on there....
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ultrarunner
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Posted: September-27-2020 at 10:02pm |
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I did get these little guys:-)
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Posted: September-28-2020 at 6:04am |
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Mark,
Careful with the type of valve you use. You need one tthat you can still get a piece of wire through it and into the block to probe the hole for sediment. Those do look like you can but with a reduced port size. I've been using these for years and have recommended them several times. The complete stem removes so it's full port for the wire for probing. I even see they are now offered at some marine suppies for block drains.  |
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8122pbrainard
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Fast351
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 5:33pm |
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This works good for a GT40 powered boat. Mine's an 01. 1) Warm up engine 2) Change oil (Rotella T 15/40 + Motorcraft FL1A) 3) Drain all water out of block. There are 5 plugs to undo 4) Put plugs back in, use teflon tape 5) Remove raw water intake hose from transmission cooler, plug in 5 gallon bucket with bottom hose 6) put in 4 gallons of RV antifreeze (do not dilute), start boat 7) put 5th gallon in bucket when boat has consumed a gallon, it will go fast 8) shut off boat when last of RV antifreeze is consumed. It should just be starting to come out the exhaust ETA: (DON'T FORGET THIS ONE! Empty out raw water strainer and reassemble) That is it. I don't fog because the engine won't be sitting long enough for it to be an issue. Same with impeller, which I change every other year or 100 hours, whichever comes first. Transmission fluid in the summer, it's much easier with the boat sitting on the water. Stabil when I remember it, but I run the boat down around 1/8th tank most of the time anyway, so I just dump in 3/4 tank of fresh premium in the spring before launch.
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SNobsessed
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 6:08pm |
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I never used teflon tape on drain plugs, seems unnecessary to me. Pouring in the A/F works too.
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 6:50pm |
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I don't ether since all my drains have stop cocks in them.
Pour in works for me. No messing around with buckets. I gal. is plenty as a just in case for low spots. Any more than 1 is a waste since it does nothing. RV anti contains no corrosion inhibitors.
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KENO
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 7:18pm |
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Hang on Fast351, 48 more people are lining up to tell you why in their opinion their method is better
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ultrarunner
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 7:36pm |
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Where are the starboard side plugs hiding?
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KENO
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 7:47pm |
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Look down from the #1 spark plug Not knowing if you have a heater or shower, there might be a fitting with a hose screwed into the drain hole to cleverly camouflage the drain hole
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 7:48pm |
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In the block there's only one on the starboard side. Forward near the RWP or alternator depending on who mainized the engine.On Fords, near the #1 cylinder.
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Posted: October-01-2020 at 8:45pm |
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I personally fog the cylinders / carb because... why not, it's cheap and seems generally recommended.
I also follow the manual's recommendation and loosen up the belts, remove the impeller, etc. |
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Fast351
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 8:06am |
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Oh yeah, I was expecting it. More than one way to do it. Doesn't bother me. I know my way works and it goes pretty quick. I don't begrudge other people doing it other ways though :) |
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 2:30pm |
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I just winterized the blue tiger as well. This year, I'm taking her underground to a limestone mine that was converted for storage of boats, RVs, etc. Kind of a neat idea. It's constant temperature, so I probably didn't have to do more than fog and loosen the belts, but I did the full monte of habit.
I'm curious, do you guys change the oil again in the spring with a fresh batch (VR1) or just once in the fall?
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 3:31pm |
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No and here's some info on if oil goes bad by just sitting in an engne: |
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 3:55pm |
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In the dry climate where I live (Utah) I change the oil and filter as part of my winter layup routine. (Warm the engine up to normal operating temperature first). Not a lot of opportunity for moisture in the air to find its way into the crankcase. In the spring, re-commissioning goes quickly...
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Posted: October-02-2020 at 5:00pm |
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Hell no. VR1 is expensive! Once in the fall, that's it.
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 2:10pm |
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Slight drift here, back to putting boat in garage. Does anyone know the height of the top of the windshield of a 2009 196 sitting on the trailer. I have a garage available for the first time and the opening is 81"s high. I've never had to worry about this before so I want to know the height before I commit. Boat is in water now and don't want to pull it out just to get measurement. Thanks, anyone?
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ultrarunner
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 3:35pm |
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It’s lower than I thought. My 1996 SN, sitting on the Prestige trailer is 67” to top of windshield frame. Ground to top of bunks is 22”.
You should be fine unless you’re sitting way up on the trailer. |
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 9:50pm |
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Keno......I will take the under on your 48 more inputs..........now in another few weeks we may get to that number.
Question for the group - if one never uses the shower on the boats with the shower option does it still need to be part of the winterization? I am new to the shower scene.......well you guys know what I mean.
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Posted: October-06-2020 at 11:12pm |
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Yes to winterizing the shower as the hot/cold water hoses have water in them even thought the pump wasn’t activated. It only takes a couple of minutes to drain the system. I’ve had heater and shower on my boat since 1997. Only had one shower issue, the plastic manifold at the mixer cracked after a particularly cold winter. Easy fix, it was a heatercraft if I’m not mistaken. Heaters have leaked after 4-5 years likely due to delicate cores and pounding caused by rough water on occasion.
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 12:59pm |
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another winterizing question. For a heater it is really a pain to get the hoses disconnected from the block to blow them out before adding anti freeze. Seems it would be easier if there is some type of fitting to put in the lines where they are more accessible? Ideas? Maybe there is a thread on this topic? Pictures?
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Posted: October-07-2020 at 1:06pm |
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Stick this in the end of one of the hoses running up to the heater core:
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