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And........if you want a good diagram of your wiring and ignition setup here's the ever useful TRBenj simplified diagram that's good for your 1990.

It doesn't show a safety lanyard, but it's in the purple wire from the ignition switch to the ballast resistor and if unplugged or defective, it will let the engine crank over, but you'll have no spark



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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

The extra cranking was caused by bad solenoid.  They are cheap.  You can check coil with ohmmeter.  Not sure of exact ohms but you can look that up on the 'net.
 
Chris mentioned the Ohms of the relay coil. He's a little off as getting a Ohm reading of the coil will not check for welded contacts.  

Sorry Chris. Without a description of the coil and your not starting a new paragraph, I made the mistake of thinking you were speaking of the coil in the start relay. My mistake as I now understand you were referencing the ignition coil.
Brad, 
Chris is talking about the ignition coil and the Ohm reading to check it was posted by Ken. 


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Yeah Pete, I'm getting lazy on this internet stuff!   Ken beat me to the explanation.
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Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

@KENO - thanks! Awesome info in those posts.

@SNobsessed - I tried some sand paper between the contacts but that didn’t seem to solve the issue. The gap on the points seemed good based on my feeler gauge but I’m no expert again so I could be wrong. In regards to the trick charger, maybe I’m describing that poorly. It’s a car quest battery charger/maintainer. Battery is an Interstate Marine Cranking battery. Looks like 1000 cranking amps.

Sounding like I need to buy me a multimeter and check some of the readings to try to locate where Im losing power maybe.

Yesterday after cleaning off the contacts in the points I still wasn’t seeing any spark. Wondering if something down line is my issue. Or it’s bad points? Bad condenser?


Once you get the engine in a condition where Mother Nature won't damage it, then you can relax for the holidays and do some searching/reading about ignition systems here on CCF.

Earlier you asked about a coil and SNobsessed told you to check it's resistance, it should have a primary resistance of about 1.5 ohms and a secondary resistance of about 8000 or so ohms.

For some reason, I get the feeling that Advance is your favorite parts place and you probably are a SpeedPerks member and then you do computer orders with a 25% off coupon to save some money Wink

If you need a coil, a BWD E70 from Advance is a good choice, and also tucked away in the ignition circuit is a ballast resistor that could be bad and causing no spark. A good number for that would be a BWD RU-12 at Advance also. (it's about 1.3 ohms resistance)

No fair buying a bunch of new parts without research and testing the old parts though.

And now for one more 2 part question..............do you have a safety lanyard on the boat and is it plugged in? 

I'd hate to have the "no spark" be due to a lanyard that's not plugged in or defective Wink





KENO - haha no rea loyalty to advance auto or anything. Just the closest shop to me that I can find these kinds of parts. I’ve ordered a few parts over the last few years from Nautiqueparts.Com and have checked places like skidim and west marine (they west always seems crazy expensive). Advanced always just seemed easy when it came to looking for those engine parts and fluids for winterization.

I looked into NAPA though and there’s one near me that I’ll have to look into!

As far as a safety lanyard...mine doesn’t have one...not sure if it ever did, but it hasn’t since I bought it. It does have an open hole in the dash though that says “alarm” but I always assumed that was for things like engine temp, etc and maybe the previous owner pulled it for some reason?

I’m wondering though if something could be loose in my ignition though too given how it just cranked repeatedly on its own. Could that be a possibility? Or more than likely the solenoid/starter relay as has been suggested?

I’ll get the battery load tested. I don’t get to get out on the water with the fam as often as I’d like and from time to time the battery sits and I can think of a couple times at least where it was just fully dead (which I know is not good - can’t think of a way to keep it charged though unless I pull the battery each time we wrap up and bring it home with me).

Appreciate all this help though! I’m no mechanic by any means but I’m learning so much about these engines!
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Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

 I’m wondering though if something could be loose in my ignition though too given how it just cranked repeatedly on its own. Could that be a possibility? Or more than likely the solenoid/starter relay as has been suggested?

It's time to move on this idea 

Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

 Sounding like I need to buy me a multimeter and check some of the readings 

A basic VOM can be had for around $20. Great tool that's handy around the house and car too. 


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Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

 I’m wondering though if something could be loose in my ignition though too given how it just cranked repeatedly on its own. Could that be a possibility? Or more than likely the solenoid/starter relay as has been suggested?


It's time to move on this idea 

Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

 Sounding like I need to buy me a multimeter and check some of the readings 

A basic VOM can be had for around $20. Great tool that's handy around the house and car too. 


Thanks Pete!
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Free with mailer coupon at Harbor Freight. Cheap but it works.  I have a Fluke DVM from 1984, still works great. Definitely wasn’t free though.
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If your battery is going dead during short term storage, it is either at end of life or you have a parasitic draw.

Certainly get the battery tested. 

If OK, then check for a draw using amp function on multimeter - connect in series between battery terminal & unhooked cable without anything turned on.  Should read zero.
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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

If your battery is going dead during short term storage, it is either at end of life or you have a parasitic draw..

Brad,
Plus 1 for checking for a parasitic draw. You should not have to keep that battery maitainer hooked up. I've laid up my boats all winter for years without any charging and come spring no problems. 

There are some good youtube videos on how to perform the parasitic test. 


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It’s on my list of things to check.

I lucked out a bit. My old company is letting me store the boat in the loading area of their building for a few weeks to get me through the holidays and some of the upcoming cold weather so I’ve bought some time to get these things looked into!

Also, a couple of the guys there are serious electricians and offered to help me look into the electrical items y’all have addressed here. I’ll keep you all posted when I’m able to get back to checking some of the electrical
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That's great you have some inside storage for a while.  Are you holding off on winterizing completely because you want to get it running first?  Would be nice to get your problems sorted out now so you can just fire up in the spring.

If you are installing new ignition parts including points, you'll want/need to adjust points and check timing on the engine once you get it started.  That's another thing that I'm guessing one of the guys there could help you with.  And if you are working on the distributor take a look at the advance mechanism, should be clean and shiny and work easily, all springs in place.
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Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

 a couple of the guys there are serious electricians and offered to help me look into the electrical items y’all have addressed here.

Brad,
Fantastic opportunity to pick up some basics. Have them fill you in on what the tests are doing. Keep your eyes and ears open and even do some of the tests yourself while they direct you. Clap


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Originally posted by bdillard bdillard wrote:

 a couple of the guys there are serious electricians and offered to help me look into the electrical items y’all have addressed here.


Brad,
Fantastic opportunity to pick up some basics. Have them fill you in on what the tests are doing. Keep your eyes and ears open and even do some of the tests yourself while they direct you. Clap


That’s the plan! I’d love to learn from what they’ll test and how. Like I’d mentioned, one of the reasons for buying the Nautique (outside of Ewing up on them as kid and moving them) was to learn more about the workings of an engine! This will all be part of the education.
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