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 Posted: February-27-2022 at 10:13pm |
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Gonna get this cleaned up 
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Posted: February-27-2022 at 10:17pm |
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Inside of the prop after pulling it. 
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Posted: February-27-2022 at 10:24pm |
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Bilge and engine bay after engine removal. Clearing the rot.
The newer engine has 3.5" exhaust so I think I am going to source 3.5in exhaust tips. I don't have mufflers for the 3.5in, but I think I want to go straight pipe anyway. I enjoy the loud pipes.  |
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jmesser
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Posted: February-27-2022 at 10:24pm |
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Johnnie Messer
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Posted: February-27-2022 at 10:26pm |
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Thank you for the offer! Apparently tonight, picture posting works. I dunno?
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KENO
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Posted: February-28-2022 at 6:04am |
It looks like it says 14X11 1 1/8 NI-BRAL cup and the stamping is on the end of the hub that should be closest to the strut when installed. So the L is just the last letter of Nibral You can also see where the hub has been hammered on in a few spots.
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Posted: February-28-2022 at 9:36am |
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Can we confirm that the prop was not on backwards, that it's a RH prop that for some strange reason was installed? Like Ken said I don't think you could force a tapered prop on backwards far enough to thread on the nut, but unlike Ken I've never tried. Of all the aspects of the project this is a small once since you just need to find the correct prop. Looking good with the cleanup! If it was me I'd go straight pipe too, only question on that would be if you plan to fish the boat, trolling a lot, if you think the noise would get to you. Do you plan on ocean or lake use?
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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Posted: February-28-2022 at 9:39am |
Did I miss that you are putting a different engine in the boat?
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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KENO
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Posted: February-28-2022 at 12:08pm |
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The thread in the link is about his newer engine
Johnnie's pictures in the linked thread seem to have disappeared
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Posted: February-28-2022 at 12:32pm |
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Aha, thanks, missed that thread.
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jmesser
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Posted: February-28-2022 at 8:43pm |
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Yes sir, KENO was right (I can't ever recall him not being right...) It is the wrong prop. After he mentioned the inability to get the taper on, I, just coincidence, have the shaft and prop in my garage. I went and checked, and sure enough, the prop will not go on backwards. The tapered end will not go past the threads at all. ...I was sure it was on backwards, it made sense. I got so excited that I spent a few hours cleaning it and the rudder. I've got brasso and white vinegar everywhere.
And on the engine, yes sir, I got another one. I bought it just to play with in the garage. After I got it home, it turns out it is in amazing shape, and has GT40 heads. So I'm gonna put it in and keep the old engine and play with it. The old engine has some issues, but runs good. I did a compression check and the cylinders are mostly 120 with one lower at 112. I personally think it was neglected forever. I have it on a crate and it fires right up. I'm going to pull the manifolds, risers, and all so I can inspect, clean, prep and paint...and look for another hull to play with.   |
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Posted: March-20-2022 at 2:52pm |
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Posted: March-20-2022 at 3:00pm |
Here is a couple pics of my 87. Deck heights were lower in the earlier years. Some also had fuel tanks in the stern. Mine has a removable deck in the back of boat to access fuel tank. I think spicing transducer wires is frowned upon.
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jmesser
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Posted: March-20-2022 at 9:37pm |
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That looks so nice!. I had planned on placing speakers like you have. Do yours sound good?
...well a funny thing happened to my console after I got back in country....
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Posted: March-20-2022 at 10:26pm |
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Sounds good to me there but that’s only way I’ve had them. What’s your plan for the console?
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jmesser
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Posted: February-25-2023 at 10:21am |
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So as I near the final touches of putting all back together on this Fish Nautique...An knowing I rcvd this boat is less than complete condition... I need to ask the experts, should this set up need an electric fuel pump?
Note it is a GT40 351, but had been configured back to a carb. It runs well with a fuel line into the gas can in the bilge. please look... https://photos.app.goo.gl/QRRseKUQbbrNrT127
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KENO
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Posted: February-25-2023 at 2:19pm |
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Based on this thread and also the one in the link below, it was determined that you had a Protec engine(predecessor to the gt40) that somebody had converted to a carburetor and distributor.
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Just a guess here, but does it have a mechanical fuel pump on it now to suck the gas from your portable can. If it does, that's all you need If it has an electric pump right now, it could be converted to a mechanical pump
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jmesser
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Posted: February-25-2023 at 3:12pm |
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Keno,
Yes sir, it is mechanical. I start her up often now that the engine is back in. She fires right up as is and stays running. I am waiting on some new brackets this week and then I will put the fuel tank back in. Thanks for the info. I was hoping I did not need one. ...Still a Youtube mechanic, ha!
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Posted: February-27-2023 at 9:18am |
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Good thing that was an older HO GT engine. the newer ones had the fuel pump eccentric omitted from the cam gear. Had a customer go through two fuel pumps on a carb converted newer GT engine..... pumps would not prime LOL. he kept telling me the pumps were bad?? I had to ask what engine he had. long story i explained the eccentric omit to him..wound up utilizing the electric pump and original mount bracket..
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Posted: May-09-2023 at 9:27pm |
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