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storm34 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-03-2008 Location: Dexter Iowa Status: Offline Points: 4496 |
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Kristof ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3412 |
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Hey Lenny,
Carpet looks the part on that boat. Nice! She is coming along nicely. Looking forward to water pitcures coming season
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Thank you Andrew and TRB for the explanation!
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andrewmarani ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-31-2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Status: Offline Points: 256 |
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I expanded the original picture on my computer..., just a touch of radius, an 1/8 or less at a guess. Didn't interfere with my engine placement, would need less than an 1/8" on either side of the cradle to clear it.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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Could be deceiving but looks radiused in that pic.
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andrewmarani ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-31-2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Status: Offline Points: 256 |
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Engine mount has a sharp inside corner. That's the back mount but the front mount has the same sharp inside corner.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21210 |
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Not uncommon to see some blocks under the front mounts. Boat was designed with both Chevy and ford engines in mind. Notch in stringer below the mount is to get the nuts on the backside of the through bolts. It’s common for there to be a small gap on the vertical face, it’s not critical. Obviously the tabbed cradle boats (89+ SN) don’t require any vertical support. Can’t recall if that angle on the underside of the mount is sharp or radiused, might not be possible to get the mount all the way in on a piece of sharp angled aluminum like they could on the radiused stringers (cradle-less) boats.
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Thanks Andrew, your boat certainly is looking a lot better now! First picture showing the engine mounting plates on top of each other. Can anyone confirm this is how its supodsed to be on a 1986 BFN?
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andrewmarani ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-31-2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Status: Offline Points: 256 |
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Looking at pictures of my 86 silver nautique engine, I only had two engine support blocks and they went under the front two engine mounts, on top of the aluminum cradle. Picture is BEFORE the rebuild, everything is much prettier now.
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Update:
We found carpet with a correct price and neutral color. Originally we wanted to go with teak like carpet, but quite happy on how the grey turned out. Last picture also gives a good look on the footrest, it's a bit narrow, but it will do fine I believe. (we could always add a piece to it, if necessary. Attached the gearbox to the engine, and dropped it into the cradle. ![]() So now come the questions ![]() -Attaching the belhousing to the engine. I sorted the screws in a separate bag for the belhousing, but these don't seem to match... I have 2 bolts (the longest ones) that fit nicely in the bottom hole, on each side of the housing. (marked in RED below) I'm guessing these are the 2"3/4 ones. above those holes you have the "guide holes" and on top of these you have the Holes for the studs I believe? (GREEN) For the top 2 holes (YELLOW), the blowapart states that I need 2x 1"1/4 bolt. Which are not in the bag. The reason I'm confused is because the bolts I do have in the bag are too long but one has a painted head and the other one doesn't, this would make sense because one of the bolts is installed inside of the bellhousing (under the starter), so it wouldn't be painted over during the painting process) So either I'm loosing my mind or the machine shop took the bolts out of the bags and switched them up by accident... ![]() -Engine support blocks I have 4 Engine support blocks, is it possible that there are 2 that go under the engine mount pad and 2 that are placed on the inner side of the transmission mount? Or maybe one on top of the cradle and one beneath it? |
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andrewmarani ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-31-2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Status: Offline Points: 256 |
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I installed the carpet before the engine was back in. Made fitting the carpet to the boat shape much, much easier.
Link below is to the section of my rebuild where the carpet started going in. I managed to install it as one piece, turned the floor carpet right up the sides with no cutting. Only had one spot on each side that ended up with a fold and that was up just at the dash so not visible. A fiberglass mat roller or some type of roughly 6" wide hand roller is a must for getting the bubbles out of the carpet. Type and amount of carpet and glue I used is noted in one of the posts. Not sure if that going help you in the EU.
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Quick question:
Would you install the engine & trans before or after installing the carpet? Also, if anyone from the EU has some info on shops where we can find carpet, i'm all ears. We can find some, but its either very expensive or very little choice. |
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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The workspace was supposed to become a bedroom for the newborn child of one of the co-owners, but yeah, priorities
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Kristof ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3412 |
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![]() Next up: new camshaft... A few horses right there.
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4293 |
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If someone can find the owner of that red boat they need to tell them to add more power to it, looks like it only is pulling a dozen people ... ![]() Nice looking work space!
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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Kristof ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3412 |
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Just curious about that red boat...
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MrMcD ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3778 |
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Big Project, keep up the good work.
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Timr71 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-28-2016 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 82 |
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Looking good! Can't wait to see it on the water this year!
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Hello all,
Time for an update. With the summer coming up last year it was difficult to find the time and motivation to continue working on the boat. After the two blower screws went through the hull, we went and enjoyed the good weather, and spent some time on the water with our I/O. Also had the chance to see a certain red boat in action, which some of you might recognize ![]() Due to work trips and vacation, we didn't really manage to start back up. Now, a few months before summer begins we realized once again that we need to finish this boat ASAP. So over the last week we painted the engine block and put it back together, installed the steering, horn and throttle control, also finished up the floor boards. We're waiting on some parts for the engine (fuel pump and some gaskets), for the fuel tank, etc etc. I'll update soon with pictures and , probably, a ton of questions. ![]() Cheers, Lenny |
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Will do!
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Well, well, well, Look at that, 3 replies in under 10 minutes... Looks like we're not the only ones beeing motivated by the calendar girls
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11250 |
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63 Skier ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4293 |
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Lenny never noticed they had calendar dates on them before. That is looking fantastic! When you get on the water, be sure to post some pictures of the local areas. I love seeing the scenery from different parts of the world.
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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fanofccfan ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-13-2009 Location: North Bend NE Status: Offline Points: 1797 |
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The boat looks great! You must stay busy enough to need 3 wall hanging calendars to keep track of things huh?!?!
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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![]() ![]() Anyways, better late than never! Looks like I got some reading to do over the weekend! Thanks for the sugestion and pointing me towards this thread. I think the mount on the strut will be the solution.
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11250 |
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Lenny
Here's a picture from TRB's BFN rebuild thread A hunk of angle aluminum or stainless steel bolted to the strut mounting bolts with the clamp block bolted it. Lots of boats were built with that setup. Fairly close to indestructible mounting and easy too ![]() ![]() |
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LennyBoat ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: May-22-2023 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 58 |
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Hi all,
I was thinking something alike, fabricate a stainless plate and weld a shortened bolt to it. and attach it to the stringer. I'm just curious how much force is on the rudder cable when turning under high load/speed. The original bolt size seems to suggest its quite a lot, however, i'm thinking it's a bit overkill? |
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andrewmarani ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-31-2005 Location: Baltimore, MD Status: Offline Points: 256 |
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Looking over your pictures, I think you're ok. What I'm calling the primary stringer, where the bracket gets fastened, is that lower stringer in your pictures. the one closest to the center of the boat. The outboard taller one is the secondary stringer. You don't fasten to the secondary.
You have to get slightly creative. Instead of bolting into the side of your low primary stringer, you would make a small stainless bracket with a hole in the vertical leg for that bolt with the ball on the end and two holes in the horizontal leg. Lag the new stainless bracket down to the top of your primary stringer through the horizontal leg and hook the "ball bolt" to the vertical leg with a nut on each side of the bracket. Should get the job done. I suppose you could fiberglass the stainless bracket down to the stringer so you don't put holes in your stringer for the lags. Or you could fiberglass in a hump into your low stringer and drill hole in it and put the bolt through as originally installed. Lots of ways to slice this melon! |
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