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eric lavine
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Posted: August-22-2007 at 10:32am |
along with boating comes safety, would it be a good idea to start a safety topic on its own? alot of guys are new to boats and one thing that always is overlooked is safety issues including what you need on the boat, it would just make people more aware of safety issues including operating and repairing
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BuffaloBFN
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Good idea...maybe even cure a walley or 2?!!?
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Johnny
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Sounds like a good idea, although I'm not sure we need it on our lake...Every driver I see out there has safety as priority one...head turned around watching their tuber the whole time making sure they're safe, and even standing up or sitting on the back of the seat just in case they need to jump in after somebody. Maybe someday one of these boat manufacturers will figure it out and start making boats with the driver's seat facing backwards. Until then we'll all just have to be extra careful.
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eric lavine
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Johnny, there's always that one..
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Aemmer
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I am curious about these these older tournament boats I see on the lake converted to wakeboard boats by adding 1000 plus lbs of weight. Just doesn't seem safe to me for the passengers or their boats.
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Hollywood
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Aemmer, it's not. Luckily they don't last long and upgrade to a new v-drive financing it out to the max parked outside their apartment complex.
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behindpropeller
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Ok..tips one thru 4
1. Buy a new mirror to supplement the one on the dash. http://skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=M1C 2. Throw out the original throttle on your boat without the safety catch. 3. Put a 3-4" riser under the driver seat. 4. Whenever the boat is not in gear the button is out on the throttle. |
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Riley
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How about how to handle gas when changing out a tank? A friend ask me to help him a couple of weeks ago. He has a Wildcat that he had removed the gas tank and was ready to replace it. He had drained about 25 gals of gas into a trash can and had it sitting next to the boat with a lid on it. Seemed like a bomb to me. I didn't stay around very long.
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Aemmer
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BP,
I like your idea about a driver seat riser. At 6'3" I feel too low in the seat of my 88 2001. I will do an advanced search to figure out the best way you all have come up with to accomplish this task. Sometimes it's the obvious. |
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behindpropeller
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I put 2x4s under mine, when it gets a new floor it will get a 3x3 frame under it. Tim |
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ammer- i dont have 80k to blow on a boat that i use a few months out of the year, so i choose to add weight to acheive a decent wake...without adding wake the wake for boarding is just not there..i have 3 sacs that is approx 1200 lbs...capacity plate says 1200 lbs..so im really not that far over, and im sure that number is very low due to liability issues with cc...hows the weight a safety issue with passengers?..more worried about the other idiots out there
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quinner
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In my opinion boater licensing should be mandatory particularly with the PWC's. When I was around 12yrs old my Dad put me and my brothers through a power squadron boaters safety course, really learned a lot and the bonus was I was then able to operate the boat by myself.
Regarding the weighted boat issue and creating huge wakes I would guess many of those doing that do not even realize they are responsible for any damage their wake may cause should it occur. More times then not the riders behind those loaded boats can barely do any decent tricks anyways so what is the point, my feeling is use what you got as most decent riders can do a tantrum without a wake anyways. |
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62 wood
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Always check the capacity plate and follow it!!!
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jbear
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Wood: ya took the words right outa my mouth...after seeing the pics of JEFF KOSTIS' driving skills...he is a lock to be the safety boat driving instructor.
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behindpropeller
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jon4pres
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Johnny that is so funny and sadly true.
If you know what you are doing. Driving a ski boat with weight in it is not any more dangerous than driving it without weight in it. I can drive with 1500 lbs in the boat and never take a roller over the bow or beat up on another boat. I love the old man but I have to yell at my dad all the time because he has ADD and gets to caught up in what is going on behind the boat to remember that he is driving a fiberglass spear at 25 mph. I yell and yell at him to pay attention and not go through other peoples lines and watch the rollers from the boat after someone falls but I dont know if he will ever get it. |
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eric lavine
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What if the orher guy doesnt know what he's doing? Man ive been on boats for 25 years, and the times i can count of being close to death was on boats, it wasnt necessarily me, it was a combination, sometimes alcohol, sometimes poor judgement and alot of the other times were inexperienced boaters causing the problem
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8122pbrainard
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Every year with the boat registration, states send the little booklets regarding the safety rules and regulations. I do wonder if anyone reads them or they just don't care or maybe they can't even read! Unlike driving a car, anyone after a certain age can just hop in the boat and start driving without any tests of any kind. It is not going to get any better and we will really need to watch out for the other guy!
The other day, I was out and in the "proceed" position putting along in my little Atom when a guy in the "yeild" position cut me off and then gave me the finger! Nice boaters!! This is really what it is coming down to. |
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81nautique
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I'm not criticizing you Pete but Good Luck with that Yeild /proceed thing, I'd bet there's only a select few on the water who know's anything about right of ways and how/ when to overtake. How many times do you blow your horn to overtake, yeah right, blow the horn and get flipped off. People won't get it until you have to get a license to operate a boat just like a car. Best advice I can give is the same as when on the road, "defensive driving" don't assume the other guy is going to do the right thing just because it's in some manual somewhere. You can only control your actions not the other guys so be aware of your surroundings, water conditions, and other boaters at all times and don't expect the worse or you'll never have any fun but be prepared for it. |
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Riley
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Hardly anyone on my lake knows how to, or cares to yeild. The biggest boat wins.
Sadly, on the Saturday night of the NE Reunion, on Long Lake about 45 minutes away, a 32' Cigarette type boat with twin 425's ran over a 14' Glaspar at 9:30 at night. The 38 yo guy from MA, and his 19 yo friend from ME got thrown from the boat and swam to shore. Their boat went 150' into the woods. It took the wardens 4 days to find the remains of the guy and lady in the Glaspar. |
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8122pbrainard
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Alan, I should have emphasized watching out for the other guy more and the fact that it isn't going to get any better. I know people can't even follow rules on the road so they certainly won't on the water!!
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68lemans
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In ohio if you were born after 1982 you are required to have a boating license. I got mine this year because I did not want to get a ticket for not having one.....
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The Lake
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In think in Missouri if you were born after 1988 you are required to have a license, although I have never heard of anyone actually being checked for it.
On the big lakes there are too many big boats, 30' plus, with a lot of horsepower, making a lot of noise, making huge rollers, with their noses a lot in the air, that have no idea of boating safety. I'm glad to have a small lake nearby where the Nautique can scoot along in relative safety. Chuck |
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p/allen
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Steve , Did you notice they are all wearing life jackets ? That surprized me . |
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882001
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kemah texas
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tell me thats photoshpped!
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882001
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i dont think it is. that looks like either a malibu tantrum or a moomba boomerang.i think ether with that many people would look like that. i count 12 people.
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tjlake
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Aemmer, you might want to try one of the square throw cushions in your driver's seat. In Ala. we are required to have one when pulling anyone and it seems like a good place to store it, plus it adds just the right height for me..
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eric lavine
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that sqaure cushion always has to be with in reach of the boat operater, the reason i know this is from boaters safety coarses and the Coast Guard pulled me over and refreshed my memory he also let me know my flares were expired
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Hollywood
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I hope that boat is just transporting passengers from one party barge to another, no way they are actually out riding like that.
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