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    Posted: September-06-2007 at 12:51pm
Well... I've been working on the boom to hone my Barefooting skills this past week. Yesterday I took a weird fall and smacked the side of my head HARD on the water. Sure enough... I ruptured my eardrum. Hearing in my right ear is off, and it's quite painful.

My question is... do any of you guys wear helmets   with earguards? What are the pro's and con's to wearing a helmet while barefooting?

Any thoughts?

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I know of a couple of guys who foot with helmets, mainly because of concussion. the barefoot race we did last month was called the "buckethead barefoot classic", put on by brian mcmillan who wears a brain bucket while footing because of scrambling his mellon. I'll email you his email address and he can tell you what he wears. it's important to have the right can on top, unless you enjoy neck problems.
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Thanks Steve,

How's your recovery coming?

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it's important to have the right can on top, unless you enjoy neck problems.
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That's what I was concerned about wearing a helmet. It would seem that at 36 mph if you fell and the water caught the helmet in a weird way it could do more harm than good. Out of the 20 or so falls I've taken while learning... this was the first one that caused any problems, so maybe I'm being overly cautious.

Get well soon buddy!

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Originally posted by joed joed wrote:

It would seem that at 36 mph if you fell and the water caught the helmet in a weird way it could do more harm than good.

Helmets are common in barefoot jumping, so I would think they are pretty safe.

M3Fan is the local eardrum expert- hes ruptured them more times than anyone I know. I know a few others that did the same this year (including Keith). Ive never had any eardrum problems, but I know Joel recommends Doc's ProPlugs. My ears bother me when skiing in cold water- so hopefully they'll help with that too.
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Thanks Tim,

ProPlugs look like the ticket. Hopefully I can find some locally.

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I wear a gath helmet on the sky ski.

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With ear plugs etc., and not being able to hear affects my sense of how fast I'm going. Somewhat like skiing into the wind, it seems like you're going faster than you really are.
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I believe that neoprene surfing hood works better than a helmet for eardrum protection. Of course the helmet also offers some measure of brain protection as well. BKH
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Originally posted by bkhallpass bkhallpass wrote:

I believe that neoprene surfing hood works better than a helmet for eardrum protection. Of course the helmet also offers some measure of brain protection as well. BKH


Brian,

Tried a neoprene hood once for thermal protection slaloming, the problem I experienced was any water that gets in or behind the neoprene near the ear just pounds and compresses in your eardrum from the wind at speed, peeled it back to finish my set and never used it again.
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Go with the plugs- they are cheap insurance. Hardest thing about them is remembering to put them in before your run...
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Notwithstanding Ryan's opinion, I wear a Voz helmet with ear covers installed. It's made for the kiteboarding industry -- popular here on the Outer Banks. I can tell a dif dif dif difference when I take a hard fall. With the helmet, the stars and tweety birds are fewer and last a shorter period of time. Good luck with the eardrum, joed I did it once on a dive and it was painful.

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Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women



When you can invert you can talk

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Thanks for all the responses. I ordered a "fitting set" of Docs Pro Plugs to start. Will investigate Helmet choices. I'm 43... I'm not worried about being called a sissy... just want to stay healthy and active for many years to come.

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Broken ear drums too many times. 2 or 3 on right, 3 or 4 on left, to the point of poor hearing in left. Once slalom, mostly footing, especially toe-holds, which I quit doing because when you fall you get torqued to the side. Broken ear drums hurt like a son-of-a gun, especially an hour or so after you do it.

I always steered clear of ear plugs. I was afraid of them getting rammed down your ear canal and doing more damage. I have used those big waxy ones you form fit, they might be okay but I wouldn't use those plastic ones or the ones with the little vanes on them.
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Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women


Comments like this one, and many other you have made lead me to believe you've bashed your head enough times that you should probably be wearing a helmet 24/7.
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And skiing behind a short boat.
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women


Comments like this one, and many other you have made lead me to believe you've bashed your head enough times that you should probably be wearing a helmet 24/7.


He talks-the-talk but has no clue what the walk is. Behindprop is right in the mark. Go inverted or even get the balls to attempt it first and then see if a helmet is for women.


When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



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Originally posted by 75 Tique 75 Tique wrote:

I always steered clear of ear plugs. I was afraid of them getting rammed down your ear canal and doing more damage. I have used those big waxy ones you form fit, they might be okay but I wouldn't use those plastic ones or the ones with the little vanes on them.

I read somewhere (probably the Proplugs website) that regular earplugs wont prevent ruptured eardrums. They keep the water out, but a solid hit will compress the air between the plug and the eardrum and still cause it to rupture. The Proplugs are vented to prevent this.

Ill bring my fit kit next time we ski, Larry. I need a handle, but I want to start doing toe-holds soon.
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Seriously, if you guys are looking for a helmet, check out the Gath helmets. A bit spendy but they do not bucket and fit great.

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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

I need a handle, but I want to start doing toe-holds soon.


I'll dig around, I have one someplace, old, reroped several times and rehandled once (short handle) but still has the strap so still usable. If we hook up again, I'll bring it.
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BTH, id rather have an expensive helmet than no hearing
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helmets are for women....ruptured my eardrum last fall and would deal with the pain again before i wore a helmet....

tim- i think the bulbs burned out or something..

backdoor- tried em so wanna feel my balls see if they are big enough?...you must have softball size balls huh!
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ryan... have you seen backfoot or as you say "backdoor"... i would go ahead & make sure you dont run across him anywhere if you're gonna talk sh*t to the guy.... could probably snap you like a twig.....

If a helmet keeps you on the water & going for years longer, then I say do it, at this point in my life i wouldn't wear one, but thats basically because I've never had any problems while footing or boarding, not because of someone calling me a woman...

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I think the only helmets Ryan likes are "Purple Helmet's"!! He ride's em all day and long!!

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quinner- dont tell anyone......
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nate- yes you correct, more i think about it a 3rd grder probably could too..

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Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women....ruptured my eardrum last fall and would deal with the pain again before i wore a helmet....

tim- i think the bulbs burned out or something..

backdoor- tried em so wanna feel my balls see if they are big enough?...you must have softball size balls huh!


Oh God, another one of the "play through the pain" a**holes! Hey little man, when you're ready to play with the big dogs, strap on a girly helmet and come jumping with me. Regular or barefoot, doesn't matter.

If you can't provide some sort of constructive responses to someone who's looking for legitimate help, get off the site a**wipe.

When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded.



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ok- reread the question..."do any of you guys wear a helmet with ear flaps etc"..
response..."i think they are for women", so NO..
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Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

helmets are for women....ruptured my eardrum last fall and would deal with the pain again before i wore a helmet....

tim- i think the bulbs burned out or something..

backdoor- tried em so wanna feel my balls see if they are big enough?...you must have softball size balls huh!


Oh God, another one of the "play through the pain" a**holes! Hey little man, when you're ready to play with the big dogs, strap on a girly helmet and come jumping with me. Regular or barefoot, doesn't matter.

If you can't provide some sort of constructive responses to someone who's looking for legitimate help, get off the site a**wipe.



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