’63 Classic on e-bay

Riley wrote: Just think how you would have felt if you had paid for it all through paypal and not had Tim look at it, when they unloaded it in your driveway.

Man, I have been and it's not pretty! I may not have expressed myself as clearly as I meant to(I was trying not to sound as upset about the whole thing as I am), but I am so grateful for Tim's efforts and for this site and for all of yall's kind words.

There is a little about this whole thing that went on behind the scenes before I tripped over it on ebay with 10+ hours left on the auction. It had been on craig's list more than once before it even got to ebay. I've been following it off and on with Tim since he knew the area and had seen it as well...we kinda found it together on someone else's thread. Anyway, he had offered to look at it before, and I wouldn't have bid if I had let him go on in the first place. My bad and lesson learned. I won't be bidding blindly on something with 10 hrs left!

As much as I'm disappointed about not getting what I thought I was getting, there's no feeling like knowing my back was covered!

Greg, I don't know if I outbid you, but I put in an offer of $1,101 in the last seconds, but I hadn't logged in and by the time I did it was too late. If I had won, I would have drove down with the whole family, and when we got there it would have been de ja vou all over again, and then I would have been a 2 time dead beat buyer.

eric lavine wrote: were all just lucky that there is a bond amongst each other and TR would take his time to do that for you as i would also. My hat is off to TR....

That reminds me of the best part...the seller actually said that the deal fell through because Tim looked at it too closely?!!?

When I backed out of the Lyman, the seller wasn't bad about it, but said unless he complained about me, he would lose the listing fee. I told him to do what he had to do. He gave me a negative with comments, and I was able to respond with my own comments.

My understanding with ebay is you got to buy it when you win. It's the buyer's responsibility to check before bidding. If Greg had paid with pay pal, he'd have himself a new boat with no recourse.

When I won the bid on the Lyman, the seller put all the responsibility on me by stating that he knew nothng about boats, and the description was accurate to the best of his knowledge.

TRBenj wrote: Greg, should I call the guy and apologize for "looking too closely"?

Not! LOL

BuffaloBFN wrote: Riley wrote: If Greg had paid with pay pal, he'd have himself a new boat with no recourse. I was just shopping on ebay for an alternator. One seller said paypal preferred and had no other options. Another had his own store and was happy to take several forms of payment. This may be a clue?

Not exactly- I love paypal, and Im unlikely to do business with someone who doesnt accept it, at least for small items. Bruce is wrong when he said paypal offers no recourse- they do. There is a process to file a claim to get your money back. Also, if you pay through paypal using your credit card, you can do a chargeback through your credit card company as well. Its the most secure way to do business for both parties. Quick and easy to boot.

On anything big like a boat, its always a good idea to take a look at it in person if at all possible before sending the money.

Tim, I didn't think there was any recourse in a case like this when the goods were delivered.

In this case, Greg would be saying the description of the boat was misleading and inaccurate, which we all know is true, but the seller would be saying IHO it was accurate and not misleading at all. He would have said you should have checked out the boat first. You think you could get the money back from pay pal?

In my case, in which the excat same thing happened, I felt lucky that I didn't pay upfront through paypal and was able to walk.

I had brought my wife and 3 kids with me. It was winter and the guy had the boat in his basement garage. We walked in to the garage and he lowered the doors. My wife and daughter were kind of freaking out when we were disagreeing on the condition and there was no door in sight. I told him it was a parts boat and was ready for firewood. I was glad to get out of there.

Makes sense.

Definately pays to have someone check out the item. Pretty cool that a guy in GA is able to have connections in MA in order to check out the boat.

Is that what he said about me? We have been e-mailing through ebay, I may pay his ebay fee since I did win the item...or maybe not; his attitude sux!

BuffaloBFN wrote: Is that what he said about me? We have been e-mailing through ebay, I may pay his ebay fee since I did win the item...or maybe not; his attitude sux!

Greg, dont bother. I believe he can relist it for no fee. Its not your fault it was misrepresented.

No need to act in good faith if he's going to bash you with negative feedback!

WOW......That's all i can say.....i just found this thread.....to much work and not enough time to look at the CC site.....Man Greg sorry your not a owner of a classic but what a great guy tim is for saving you the headache!!!Jeeeeez that guy Is for SURE the e-bayhole of the year!!!!

Paul,

p/allen wrote: Paul I just noticed you signature. What happen to your hull ornaments ?

They went to Florida for the winter, wouldn't you.



Paul has to settle for the B-Team for a little while.

All those years I admired Pauls ornaments...now I got 'em!

Welcome back Paul...ya been gone to long.

john

Don't think i've been gone long enough.......

I'm working on new Ornaments.....

Jbear....looks like 79 has a facefull of the brunette....

Reid.....Damn your cruel!