Maybe it's just me?

forgot no saturday cause of the fourth, i will be in on friday though, back to our regulariy scheduled program

yeah, i could congere up some stories and put my on spot views out there lol, i wonder if he'll get a break on his coffin

I think his estate is insolvant...and I'm way past the 24/7 coverage.

Eric, maybe then there is value in having a big blue heart in my nautique after all.

BTW, MJ, doctor assisted suicide?

I should add that it's still in the senate and there is still time!   

what ever happened to the game of Risk? little blipps on the map. and they are squeezing our n-ts

Malpractice is getting quite common around here too, so now for many things you need to sign some paperwork first. Numbers arent nearly that high as you stated, but in many cases it has helped stop unnecesary procedures that doctors did to charge on prepaids and also to generate some good care for procedures.

I have had this "great" prepaid health insurance for the past 15 years, they will cover a percentage out of 40 therapy sessions every 3 years (because I chose the therapist) If not they choose one for me and I have it for free. And that is almost the only thing I use it for.
A woman joining the prepaid can get her boobs done after three months.

Don, very filosofical, but nontheless to the point...
My grandmother always said to me: start whiping in front of your own door first.

BTW... there will never be a government in any country anywhere in the world that can satisfy all of it's people. There's a saying here that says: "No cook as ever been found who could amuse everyone's mouth".

Luch-
The point I was making was that many, not all, but a lot of the complaints I hear about the wars are the monitary costs. Example, Eric's post above. People, for the most part, are not concerned with the human cost. Right or wrong, that is what you hear about most.

Eric-
I have to agree with you that we need to take care of ourselves first before we save the world. However misguided he was, I think GWB was looking out for us when he invaded Iraq. Will anyone dispute Saddam was a bad guy? Probably not. Did he have nukes now? No, but how long until he did (same with NK and Iran)? We all know he was not apposed to using WMD's. He chemical bombed his own people!

I hear what you are saying about the computer age, trust me, I work for a company that makes an actual, tangable, sellable good. It is not getting any easier. And one of the things that will make it worse, and possible close this plant, is cap and trade. We use A LOT of energy to heat and cool water, to run blow molders and screen printers, and filling equipment. If this bill passes, it could be the 50 lb weight that breaks the camel's back and they just shut this plant down and move it to our other plant in Mexico where labor is cheap and so is energy. Instead of adding a new tax, why doesn't Obama reduce the tax on people and companies to allow them to spend that money elsewhere and stimulate the economy? Maybe my company could invest in some new equipment to add capabilities. Maybe hire some needed help. Maybe instead of paying this new tax, some people would spend money buying the products I produce right here in Jacksonville, FL and my job will not get shipped to Mexico and I can keep driving my Chevy Tahoe built at Arlington Assembly in Alrington, Tx and have fun on my CC built in Orlando, FL. See how that works? Doesn't that make more sence than, "Tax everyone until everyone is poor"?

As for the property tax thing, I hear what you are saying. My home value went down and I think the taxable value should go down too. But, I am for all taxes going down, not just the ones that help me personally.

Again, sorry for the rant.

10 billion a month into the health care system surely would be a damn good cure for the health system, on of the biggest costs for employers is Healthcare, eliminate that and the price of goods comes down...fact

azeus17 wrote: Obama has proposed a health care plan that cost more than any other president has ever spent in history, even the evil GW Bush on his wars, and only covers 1/3 of the people. Does this sound smart to anyone?

Sorry but I dont caught smartness in that comment, are you comparing a health plan, whatever kind or cost it is to invading 2 countries because a guy you never caught and weapons you never found were supposed to hide there?

Economically speaking, are you talking about the costs on saving people's lifes vs. the cost of terminating them???
For sure a bullet is cheaper than a good Doctor, you get that one.

I know most guys here are not just hardcore patriots, but religious as well, sometimes I wonder what kind of God do you pray to, is it the one on churchs or the one in the green sheets of paper?

eric lavine wrote: a never ending source of income is transportation, it is an item that wears out and needs replaced every few years, unlike housing once built its there to stay

Try telling that to the auto makers. Even Toyota posted a loss this last quarter. First time in 60 years.

I know we don't really see eye to eye politically, Eric, but I don't get you. I few months ago, you were in this same forum talking about taxing the rich and taking as much as we can from them. Now, you are complaining that your city wants to tax you, which most people would consider rich (seven figure property). I have tried to stay out of this forum as I usually just get upset, but couldn't resist.

I think a lot of people thought Obama was going to be this miracle worker and impliment all these great programs and everything was going to be the best quality, and best of all, FREE. Reality kicks in and all of the sudden we have to pay for this stuff?? Nah, only the rich will have to pay for it, and they can afford to pay some more, right? Think again. How many more people do you think are going to have their electricity cut off in the middle of winter because they can not pay the extra tax from cap and trade? That will effect the poor more than the rich. Great plan oh savior of the middle class!

Obama has proposed a health care plan that cost more than any other president has ever spent in history, even the evil GW Bush on his wars, and only covers 1/3 of the people. Does this sound smart to anyone?

This is why I have to stay out of these forums. I get way off topic and carried away.

Back tot the point. I have contacted my senator and congressman. Have you?

BuffaloBFN wrote: Kristof...I completely agree with what you had to say. Do check the definition of mandate and maybe read that first statement in quotes again. If it's me I'll appologize.

No apologies necessary Greg, and yes I do know the meaning of mandate... We give the mandate to our politicians when we exercise our right to vote... Even when it's a choice for the lesser evil.

Luchog wrote: Eric: I dread that a big number of those who voted for Obama are not that much into change, they were just tired and annoyed at the last Government and will not support Obama's policies once they get up on their feet where they were before the crisis. I hope I'm wrong, but that would happen here for sure.

Same thing happenend at our last national elections two years ago... Payback happened at the local elections a month ago.

Luchog wrote: Eric: I dread that a big number of those who voted for Obama are not that much into change, they were just tired and annoyed at the last Government and will not support Obama's policies once they get up on their feet where they were before the crisis. I hope I'm wrong, but that would happen here for sure. The problem I see with consumption is not materialism on itself but the shallowness of content that goes with material things, most people want to live like a catalog photo booklet but few care about a good novel.

Luv this post!

People are out in the middle of the night scraping off bumper stickers.