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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joel?
bass lake Hwy. 70 east? |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Steve, we looked at a house there too, near the bridge there (I think). I like that pump idea. I have to survey the shore once things thaw out to see what we're workin' with. This has become a dream come true for our family. We've been going up north my entire life, renting or staying at friends' houses. |
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mdvalant ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-06-2009 Location: Bellevue, IA Status: Offline Points: 2059 |
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Did anyone say anything about fiber-steel? Worked on these all summer last year. AMAZING way to do it...if you can spend the money one of them is well worth it....
http://www.lakeboatlifts.com/ |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Quick update on this- I'm going with a hybrid approach- home-built wooden pier sections with specialized store-bought hardware to link them together and support them. Each section will "hook in" to the adjacent section and have 2 adjustable legs with set-screw pads/feet. Should be extremely simple to set up and take down. All of the hardware for 3 lengthwise and 2 sideways (like a big "L") sections comes out to around 500.00 not including the Sch40 galvanized pipe which I still have to buy for the legs. Hoping to knock the deck building out next week before we head up there.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joel,
Take your waders or at least hip boots with you! The water's still on the cool side. ![]() |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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I put the docks in at the club here in IL and froze my ass off! I can't imagine how cold the water is up there. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joel,
Have you or did you determine what the lake bottom is like where the pier is going in. If "loon sh**", plan on some pretty long pieces of pipe for the legs!! |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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It should, by all accounts, be sandy. Should.
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MI-nick ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January-12-2009 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Status: Offline Points: 815 |
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I have a hybrid dock too. Store bought alumiminum supports/bkts, treated 2X 6 stringers (2 - 12', 6-10' sections), and removable 5/4 cedar decking (2 - 6' X 3' sections, 4 - 5' X 4' sections). I can easily install and remove the whole thing by myself. For lifts, I have a Hewitt cantilever that I really like. They are cheap and simple and easy to disassemble...I mostly disassemle every year to take out over my seawall...also solo.
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Fabricated and installed the dock over the weekend. Not the whole thing- just the 40' run straight out. I have an 8' kicker that I was going to run parallel to the last section to make a platform area at the end of the dock. However, I think I might sneak another 10' section in to get a little more depth first. At 40', I have about 3' exactly of water at the end of the dock. Is that enough for a lift? I can get another 1 foot of depth if I go out to 50'
I got the dock hardware from DH Docks (Link). The dock hardware was amazing. Even came with all the carriage bolts, washers, and nuts for each bracket. This was the first time I saw our shoreline without ice- it was AWESOME! All sand bottom! Can't wait to get the boat up here. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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ultrarunner ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-02-2005 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Status: Offline Points: 1865 |
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Hi M3, if you have a constant 3 feet of water all year, you don't need anymore than that. And 3 feet is plenty of water for a cantilever lift, and even enough for a vertical.
I'm in 3 feet right now and I have my Sport Nautique on a vertical shore station lift. No problems at all. You do need to make sure when you put the lift in the water that the extension legs are fully retracted. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Lookin good Joel! Keep in mind that the water is low up north this year but it also looks like you've left youself plenty of adjustment on the legs. Any luck on a lift yet?
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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I have a lead on a 6yr-old covered lift on the same lake. The owners paid 6K new. I sent them an offer, still waiting on a reply.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Good luck on the lift. That sure would be handy in that you wouldn't need to deal with transporting it very far. Sitting on the top of a aluminum fishing boat works great.
You'll be very glad you found the place on Bass lake and not on the Eagle chain. It gets pretty bad over there. Not as bad as the Fox chain but at times close!!! |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Guys, what can I expect to pay for a used lift with a canopy? Most of the ones I've seen are in the 4K range. I thought I had a pretty solid budget at 2.5K. For 4K, I could get a very nice trailer or do very nice things to my house. I can't imagine spending that kind of bread on a boat lift. Am I completely in fantasy land at 2.5K?
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ultrarunner ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-02-2005 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Status: Offline Points: 1865 |
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You're going to pay every bit of that and more if you're buying new M3Fan. Good lifts, such as RGC, are expensive, and so is the canopy.
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13520 |
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Personally, I think the price of boat lifts has gotten out of control.
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Used. Used for sure. At 4K I could by an entire beater Ski Nautique and float it all year. |
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quinner ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-12-2005 Location: Unknown Status: Offline Points: 5828 |
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Several years ago Sold my older style Shorestation w/o canopy to my neighbor for $1k, few years ago Booby picked up his setup for $2.5k, SS w/canopy & motor. What are they getting for a brand new SS un-assembled unit these days? The canopy's are expensive, replacement vinyl alone is close to $1k.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joel,
On your way north, stop at Sportsmans just south of Three Lakes. They are a Hewitt dealer. See what they have to say. Also, they may have a used lift. |
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behindpropeller ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-31-2006 Status: Offline Points: 1810 |
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+1 There are 4 of the lakeside lifts on my dock now. Excellent workmanship. $2500 for a new lift. Tim |
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ultrarunner ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October-02-2005 Location: Ridgefield, Ct. Status: Offline Points: 1865 |
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Quinner, a brand new RGC 3500 lb unit, with canopy, will run better than 6500 bucks.
Shorestation and Craftlander can be bought for about half that. I hadn't heard of Lakeside lift before. But I'm in the market for a new lift as well. I'll give them a call. Thanks for that tip Tim. |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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Will do. |
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sethro ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: February-11-2009 Location: Sterling, IL Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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Around here (NW IL) you are not in fantasy land at 2.5k, as that would get you a very nice lift. I paid $1000 for my 3000lb Hewitt cantilever lift with canopy many years ago, and I found a 3600lb vertical Shorestation lift with canopy and electric winch for $1100 which my dad bought for his boat. In addition, I found a 1500lb ShoreMaster for my dad's flat bottom boat last year for $400. My suggestion is to "patrol" the areas where you ski/boat and look for lifts that aren't in the water. Track the owner down and see if he/she wants to sell it. That's how I found mine and the the flat bottom lift for my dad. I'm currently awaiting an answer on a 4000lb vertical lift (ShoreMaster) that hasn't been in the water for the last two years. I believe the owner is going to want to sell it, but he hasn't made a final choice yet. I'll let you know if he wants to sell as I don't need another lift. ![]() |
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PLBC ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January-25-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 568 |
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agreed. you should be able to score a hot setup for 2.5k
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LaurelLakeSkier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-12-2007 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 485 |
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If you haven't found anything yet, another spot to check is Waterworks Specialists. I didn't see anything used that fits your needs on the site right now but if you let them know what you are looking for, they are good about keeping you posted when something turns up. One of my lifts came from them and and several friends have also had great service from them.Watercraft Sales in Three Lakes also has used lifts available and would be worth checking with as well.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Mark, You must have missed it or maybe it was before you were a active CCfan'r but Joel and Kurt at Watercraft aren't the greatest of buddies!! Seems there's a slight personality conflict. I can't remember the exact expletive Joel used in describing him but I thought it was rather funny myself! ![]() ![]() |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Mark,
Here's the hard hat and shovel for sale thread. Ryan posted it (and got tons of heat for it ![]() |
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M3Fan ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-22-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3185 |
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OK guys, case closed. The boat is now sitting several feet above the water under a beautiful matching Khaki canopy on a 4000# mint Shore Station with electric motor. The moving of the lift from one side of the lake to the other was one of the most ridiculous processes I've ever seen, and also the best 150 I've ever spent to have somebody else move it. The boat sitting on a lift at the end of my dock is something I've waited many, many years to see. Now I just have to get used to my most prized material possession being so far away.
I brought my trailer home so that I could mitigate some of the insane rust issues on it. The unloaded Ram-Lin is about the bounciest thing ever when rolling on concrete paving, with it's subtle undulations. Every time I hit paved asphalt on the way home it was a complete relief! |
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Congrats Joel! Be sure to buy some rubber snakes or some type of scare tactic for those pesky birds who try and make your new lift their home!
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