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Atleast there's something up there!

Looks like I'm not going to get to the boat tonight. I'll try again tomorrow morning that way I have a whole day to work.

I still can't believe this thing is that difficult to get started.
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   I am coming in a bit late on the thread. Did you tie a small rope to the old cable before removing it? For me, this job is a much easier with two people. One lying under the dash feeding the cable and the other one tugging the line. If you didnt run a rope, then you may want to try and feed a small wire back thru the boat with a line attached. I have never done a cable without a rope to pull it thru. But, I have only done about four or five, all the same way, so there may be an easier way. Best of luck.
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Thanks for the input Ernest. I do have a small rope attached to the cable but I was trying solo last time. I've been trying to get over there but things with work have been crazy. I have a feeling your right, it should come through pretty easy with another set of hands.
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Chris did you burn up all of Pete's cell phone minutes?

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IIRC, in the area under the dash, where all the wires and stuff come thru, if you remove the vent hose it makes it a lot easier to get your arm down in there to guide it.
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On the SNOB, I think there are two different passage ways. One for the blower and one for the wiring. I would be surprised if they open up to each other once under the airbox since that would mean the wires are susceptible to getting wet? I'll check it out tho..

I'm going to be in Chicago all week so hopefully I can get to it friday afternoon/evening and ski all weekend!!!
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Waldo, I haven't had to call him back yet! Maybe we need to get verizon to give CCF members an "in your network" deal so we can all call each other for free!
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Storm, as I recall the two holes are connected and removing the vent will allow you to get your hand in there to guide the cable thru the wires.
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Some SNOBS and Sport Nautiques are very troublesome with directing the cable back into and thru the Air box even with a chase/pull rope.
Some of you probably do not want to hear this but I have a soulution that gets the cable thru every time. As their is a carpeted kick panel screwed over the air box, I have removed that panel, and taken a 4" hole saw and bored a hole into the air box. This will alow you to reach in and direct the cable end down the right path.
Re-glass the plug back into the hole and go on with life. I have done this many times faster and with less frustration then fighting the cable and tight limitations.
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I just replaced the steering cable on a 98 Sport over lunch. I believe the hole you are talking about was in the part facing out towards the driver's feet. It was already there in this boat. The process was complicated a lot by the two heater hoses in there. These obstructed the channel to such a degree that I do not see how you could possibly replace the cable with them there. Especially with no additional hole. The PO cut them off far too short to re-attach to the motor so they had to come out either way. They were actually zip tied about a third of the way down the channel to another cable. Total nightmare getting them out. once they were out there was plenty of room to slip the new cable back through to the channel. We did use a chase, but likely would not have needed it. Took about 2 hours, a lot of which was fighting the old heater hoses.
I am going to have to do the cable on my SAN this year yet. I expect less problems as it just runs down into the ski locker, unlike the Sport.
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2 hour lunch? Are they hiring?
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Thanks for chiming in guys. Mike, I took the blower hose off the air box and found it extremely easy to feed the cable through. I figured they would be separate since there's a chance for water to enter. Anyway, I got everything connected and ran the boat this afternoon. Steering was a breeze but I've still got some rudder tweaks to before it's ready to stay on the lift.

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Thinking out loud here...I'm a little disappointed with a few vibrations the boat has. I discussed this with Pete over the phone and will try a few things along with an alignment check. I'd be surprised if it was bad, but it needs to be done anyway.

Our 88 was so much smoother than the 96. Is this due to the composite stringers not absorbing the vibrations? The only other difference I can come up with is that the 88 had a four blade prop and the 96 has a 3.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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If your alignment is fine and doesnt solve the vibration, get a CNC prop. Smooth as glass. I am running a 470 three blade Acme in my 95SNOB and it works great. A buddy of mine recently bought a 2006 SN and it overreved and shook like a teenage cheerleader, we put my prop on it and it was amazing how good it ran.
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I will get Joe to take a couple pics of the channel and the additional helper hole Jody described. It was really easy to feed the new cable back through after the heater hoses were removed.
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Mike....have you tried reaching through the airbox?
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my 96 has a 4 blade stainless oj prop and has a lot more vibration than that of my buddy's 86. i have tried a 3 blade nibral and it helped a little but not enough to keep it. on another note...storm...did you ever get that trailer in lincoln?
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I wouldnt take too much out of comparing two used props. I have run three and four blade props that are perfectly smooth. The decision should be based on performance. I wouldnt consider any prop that wasnt CNC'd. Figure out what prop works for the way you use your boat, and buy a new prop, properly install it (after checking shaft alignment and bushings) and enjoy it! You may want to go to Acme's website and read about props. The last time I checked they had some good information.



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