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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September-24-2010 at 2:25am
I think that cam manufacturers tell you to do that also.I have been running it,Autozone had it on sale awhile back,half price I think.They said they were closing it out,but I still see they have it.
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I've generally used Valvoline products since the mid 1980's. I did run Castrol in a few motorcycles. I still like the VR1 Racing product, though I realize the zinc has been reduced so I'm reading with an open mind, may move to something else. I certainly like 20W50 for boats, 10 weight is just too thin for this use in my opinion.

But ... I've never had an engine fail from "bad oil". Lots of boats, tractors, cars, and trucks have run a variety of oil, nothing has ever prematurely worn or failed that I know of because of oil brand.

It makes sense to run the higher zinc oils in boats that rev high, accelerate hard. But, we all know that lots of boat owners put whatever 10W30 is cheapest in their engines. If they change it on schedule, it's likely their boat will last just as long as mine!
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

But ... I've never had an engine fail from "bad oil". Lots of boats, tractors, cars, and trucks have run a variety of oil, nothing has ever prematurely worn or failed that I know of because of oil brand.


A co-worker and I had this discussion the other day. He's an avid gearhead. He was saying the one oil related failure he had was one time a car he owned was leaking oil faster than he realized and he just plain ran the engine out of oil.
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Brian, that's not really an oil related failure, but rather a gasket failure.   
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I have never seen anyone mention Amsoil on here, they have a high zinc oil made for the older ford motors, it comes in 10/40 and 20/50, plus it's synthetic. The local dealer puts straight 40 wt Pennzsoil , I would not put that in my lawn mower. I guess they like rebuilding customers motors.
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I've said in a few threads that I'm a Valvoline user for the most part - but I do use Amsoil in my '97 diesel Suburban. I'm in the middle of a long term oil test with an Amsoil dealer from PA. I run Amsoil Synthetic Diesel & Marine 15W40. My used oil analysis sheets show around 1350 ppm zinc.

I'm sure it would make incredibly good boat oil, I've thought about using it or another Amsoil product. I'll have to be convinced that the VR1 Racing oil is not up to task before I make the switch, it's just so easy to pick it up at Autozone when I need it.
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I've said it couple times that amsoil has enough ZDDP, but there are other synthetics that do have enough too.

If you can get a hook up with amsoil, it's well worth it. Since they are based in WI, I have a couple places I can get it from for less than it is typically sold.

It works well in most of my toys, I don't see why the boat would be any different with the levels it has.

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