2017 Stringer project

I have had a busy couple of days, knocking out projects in order to be prepared to really get started on this project. I spent yesterday spreading gravel in the beautiful 70* sunny weather. It turned out nice and will be the permanent spot for my boat and pressure washer trailer.

I'm expecting the gravel to match once the dust is worked off from the weather. The darker stuff has been down for about a month while I prepared the 2nd half.

Today I organized the toolboxes and got the rest of the boat stuff into the basement for storage. All this cleared up the work space and let me see what I've got to work with.

The blue handled concrete spreader is placed on the floor at 7' from the toolboxes. If I put the boat on a moveable dolly, the wife can use her spot to park at night. Of course the rest of the junk will be moved.

EDIT: I guess I didn't share this before. Sometime around here I also cut out the floor and got the foam cleaned out.


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I guess now I'm looking for ideas and advise on building a dolly, and bracing the boat to keep its shape as ive seen mentioned on other threads. I have a few ideas for the dolly, but I don't really know where to begin with the bracing.

Have a good weekend every one, Falcons rise up.

Thanks. So based on your comment, the hulls deform more like a "U" from bow to stern vs side to side?

Made a little progress this week, I had a subpoena for a court case in which I was a call in witness. I was on call for a week starting Monday, luckily I was not called in, but progress was slow at the beginning of the week. Idk if I mentioned it earlier, but this is NOT a full or original restore, so things are going to be changed to fit my needs. That being said I added a couple pairs of pop up cleats and added a flip up anchor light to the wake tower. Removed the tower and swim platform, test fit the length in my garage and my wife and I had our first ultrasound for our first child coming at the end of August.

Then over the cours of Thursday and Friday, I got the boat off the trailer and on a dolly, and in its resting place in the garage. The wife will have her spot in the garage for most nights, assuming things aren't curing or something and preventing me from moving it.





Goal for Monday is to at least source whatever lumber I decide to use, and potentially order it and the first bit of epoxy/glass. I'd also like to start with some of the removal of a stringer, I think I'll be doing one at a time to keep the reference points (or whatever is left of them)

Trevor,
I sure agree with Tim!

When you start grinding out the hull, make sure you get your wife's car out of the garage. Trust me, I've been there when I didn't and I still hear about it!

I CANT FIND LUMBER

I have been able to locate Douglas fir in a rough cut 6/4x6" at $6.40 a foot. As far as that goes I can pick it up Wednesday morning when I get off work, it's about
5 minutes from my station. That puts it at 1.5" thick before it sees the planer. So this won't work, correct?

I can't locate LVL. My neighbor that's helping me out did his own laminate for the main stringer in his palm beach.

Anyway, I got a main out today in 1 "whole" piece.

Lvl = microlam, no?

Coosa deserves some consideration but it's more spendy (figure $1k upcharge over wood) and requires some additional process and design considerations. Stringers are usually multi-layer laminations, major pieces (cradle) need to be through bolted, etc. it's great stuff and easy to work with but it complicates things a little- so it'll slow you down a bit.

Pete can help with HD, he's on the inside!

Trevor,
Any lumber yard plus HD can get you the LVL. No one stocks it because of all the different sizes and lengths! ( you can get it up to 50' long) Our little HD store up here will get it in one to two days max. You order the length needed, the warehouse cuts it to length and then it's shipped to the store/lumber yard.

TRBenj wrote: Wow that's a nice dolly.

+1



john

Morfoot wrote: Gary S wrote: Where did Greg get the wood for the pumpkin? I went digging into his thread a couple days ago to see if could find his source but couldn't find it. I didn't read every page though. Maybe someone whose retired can do such. We seem to have a few of those retirees around here with nothing better to do! .

Well, not retired yet, I'm always up early, no work today and the wife is still sleeping so I don't want to work on the house, but here is the place. Sweetwater lumber
Trevor,
The 6/4 doesn't need to be surfaced. Just take the belt sander to it and knock off the high spots and fuzzes. .If you really want it surfaced, you would need to go with 8/4 and run it through the planer. Do route the tops with a radius to make the glass lay down easier.

If you go the LVL route, keep in mind the thickness is 1 &3/4" so the width between the stringers needs adjusting. Just put the extra thickness to the outside.

Cool beans...Thanks Pete... guess if I ever need to do a stringer job myself I'll have to remember this place....

Trevor....there ya go!

8122pbrainard wrote: Morfoot wrote: Gary S wrote: Where did Greg get the wood for the pumpkin? I went digging into his thread a couple days ago to see if could find his source but couldn't find it. I didn't read every page though. Maybe someone whose retired can do such. We seem to have a few of those retirees around here with nothing better to do! . Well, not retired yet, I'm always up early, no work today and the wife is still sleeping so I don't want to work on the house, but here is the place. Sweetwater lumber Trevor, The 6/4 doesn't need to be surfaced. Just take the belt sander to it and knock off the high spots and fuzzes. .If you really want it surfaced, you would need to go with 8/4 and run it through the planer. Do route the tops with a radius to make the glass lay down easier. If you go the LVL route, keep in mind the thickness is 1 &3/4" so the width between the stringers needs adjusting. Just put the extra thickness to the outside.

Ive talked to Sweetwater, they said that small quantities like I need are few and far between, he was supposed to be calling me back

Talked to Hardwoods Inc. They have the 6/4 x6 at $6.40/foot. It's too small at 6

Peachstate lumber has none.

I will check with HD on the LVL and I did find the distributor for the LVL.

At the risk of receiving a digital flogging, what is so bad about the yellow pine? On the charts, it appears to very similar to the fir on the numbers. After treating it with cpes, is actually 20 times worse as the price suggests?

Thanks for the input.

Not to hijack this thread but this seems to be the most current stringer thread and didn't want to start another one.   I've started (admittedly very late) a complete floor/stringer redo of my '82 2001. I'm also going the LVL route for mains and C grade pine for secondaries. We cannot get Douglas Fir here (I'm in the same area as Big Pappa).

One question that may affect Trevor. US Composites says they are out of the Epoxy mat and can't get any more of it at this time. They recommend going with 1.5 oz chop strand mat in it's place. Do any of you fiberglassing experts have an opinion on this? I'm a complete rookie at this just stumbling my way through with the help of this forum.

My plan was to use SkiBums layup method with the tapes, 10 oz mat and epoxy mat. Would the 1708 take the place of the epoxy mat or is that too stiff for the bends on the stringer (even with eased edges)? Seems like I read someone did use 1708 on the stringers but it required some skill and patience. I have the latter but not the former (yet).

Again, did not mean to hijack this thread but thought it might be helpful to OP (and others).

Thanks,
Allen

Picture bombardments to follow.







Pics of the tear down

Test fitting: made a template that was way off but it was something to copy that wasn't falling apart. Test fitting stringers. PB'ed the new mains in

Wow! That was fast. Glad you were able to get out on the water this summer.