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A friend of mine down in Phoenix has a custom built electric sports car built in about 2003. The thing cost him about 80K but it has no generator and is hella fast! If you give it full pedal from the stop it pulls to 100mph so fast it's very hard to control. If you drive it hard you only get a couple hours of driving, but with light driving you can get about 4 hours.

The tech must be better now, why not an electric ski boat?
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How about this?


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Tesla is built in our area. One of my reps has been calling upon them seeking their computer business. Kind of neat looking car. BKH
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"You're right! I just thought about it for 30 seconds and you're right; silent boats are stupid!"

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I don't think that will be loud enough...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote boat dr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December-28-2007 at 10:53pm
You guys have this sound thing all wrong.....
Quinner has the speakers and the amps that will supply at least 1000 watts, more than enough DB's for that sound we all crave.
Now what we need is a digital recording of a AA/FC at full tilt for the take off fading into a top end run for the cruise mode.
This would keep Barney at bay while we play at the other end of the lake.
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Wouldn't the 1000 watt sound system drain the electric engine's battery too fast ?

Oops! Pardon me; "...motor"!
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You missed the point.......

You can go slow but sound fast....


2 group 27 deep cycle batts would give you 4hrs of top fuel sound and would peter out at about the same time the " fuel guage " shows empty for the boat batts...........
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Okay, I'm up to speed now, but how about a 3rd option.

Real gasoline V8 power "PLUS" the sound system thing!

Oooo!

Maybe that would be "too much!"   ....

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if you really sit and think about it, all of the up front money from the gasoline companies was spent along time ago, all the refineries are paid for so whatever they pump out at 100 bucks a barrel is close to heavy profits, they fore-see the coming age of electric cars, hydrogen cars, as the same for boats, i would say they see the end is near, with the way technology progresses within 20 years will be saying remember the sound of my 2000 correct craft, sorry for anaylizing but i keep seeing these advertisemants on these cars, and at one time i would of never of thought we would be hanging thin TV's on the wall or driving around with a phone
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64X - Check out the electric tow vehicle for the Edison. I wonder if there is room in the bed for a genset - for when they are both dead & tying up the boat ramp.

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Okay, so you back your "ELECTRIC" truck and your "ELECTRIC" boat into the "WATER" ...

... Wait a minute!

Is this even safe?



Just kidding. The little truck looks interesting.
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$75K for the batteries in that truck.

That would buy alot of dino pee.

I'm going to be a late adopter of this technology.

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That sounds right. I noticed one of those pretty electric wood boats was $100,000.

So I guess that's $25,000 dollars worth of boat, and $75,000 worth of battery!
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Remember this conversation guys? Head over to Schnitz's site here and scroll about 1/4 of the way down. Looks like the electric ski boat is a reality. NIce video showing several skiers including April Coble Eller skiing an electric boat.
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Try it now.
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Very impressive!
Any details available on the engine, batteries, range, costs?

Don't know what April means by "no powerboats allowed in Europe".
There are emission restrictions for a few lakes in Switzerland and South Germany, but thats about it.
The number of places where you are allowed to go faster than 14 mph are limited, but this is a speed issue.
   
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I like the idea of an electric driven ski boat. Now make one that has a gas generator that will charge the batteries for longer trips.

This would certainly free up a lot of room in a boat.
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Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

I like the idea of an electric driven ski boat. Now make one that has a gas generator that will charge the batteries for longer trips.   

And what would the engine generator do? Think about it - you'd be better off just with the gas engine. Power generation is far from being 100% efficient (probably around only 60%) and nether is a electric motor (around 90%). Why do they need to have cooling - because the waste energy is heat! You'd be burning more gas!!

All electric - not very green ether when you consider the power generation needed. Your off coal fired out of Green Bay.


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did anyone see the link on the 11.86 1/4 mile datsun? 300hp, 800 lb ft of torque
re-charge stations at the lake? or just swap the batteries, they are getting lighter everyday
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yes I did!! pretty impressive...
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Catching up a lil late on this one...

All those batteries in a boat, I could never see a maintenance problem surfacing there! Here in FL, salt floats in the air no matter where you are, and I know we all love corrosion here right?!

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

I like the idea of an electric driven ski boat. Now make one that has a gas generator that will charge the batteries for longer trips.   

And what would the engine generator do? Think about it - you'd be better off just with the gas engine. Power generation is far from being 100% efficient (probably around only 60%) and nether is a electric motor (around 90%). Why do they need to have cooling - because the waste energy is heat! You'd be burning more gas!!

All electric - not very green ether when you consider the power generation needed. Your off coal fired out of Green Bay.


actually that is refere to as a hybrid, and you don't want to use a gas ICE as your APU for a hybrid system. Typically you can get better efficiency using a small diesel as the APU for this application. In theroy you don't need batteries at all but most have them anyway, the thought is you can go pure electric for so many miles before the APU kicks in and feeds the drive motors electricity.
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Blah...Blah... Blah...Blah.....

when the sound of your speakers is louder than your motor its time to stop.

its no mufflers for me...till the last drop of oil is gone.

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John, you know better, it would be nice with electric. like last night at 1:00 sneaking into the drive lol
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My sneaking in days are over. The gates of our development close early..you gotta be home. You know how it is in these over 55 places. Or you'll know sooner than you think!

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The hybrid boat already exists. Epic makes them in California, it has a diesel motor powering a generator to charge the bateries which run th motor. Supposed to run for about an hour on electricity before the motor kicks in, so all you short session people might never hear the motor run.

I've folowed these boats over on Wakeworld since they were a drawing on a napkin. The guy who started the company also works for someone who is designing electric cars, so the hybrid boat was right up his alley once he got done with the gas powered one. I used one of their boats to pull our hydrofoil sideshow at the dragboat races last year. It was very interesting, 23 ft, has a mercruser big block and weighs 3000 lbs dry. It will also hold 4000 lbs of ballast and has dual rudders. We ran it unloaded for acceration purposes and with the mercury electronics you set the pick up and your speed and when your ready you throw the lever. The post pulls the skier up the exact same every time and then rockets up to the exact speed, it did slow down in the sharp turns where everyone had to hold on, but as soon as I strightened it out we were back to speed almost instantly. I really liked it, it was very stripped down by modern standards, but had everything you needed to get the job done.

The bad part a out the hybrid boat is that it is rumored to be $150000. I have heard that they have actually sold a few in Europe where the taxes are so high on the regular wakeboats that it starts to make since. I also saw that they will be using some of those Boesch wooden boats to bull some of the events in the Barefoot Worlds this summer in Germany, I'm guessing it won't be the electric one.

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you guy's always forget when calculaters and digital watches came out, they were a thousand a piece, even the 42 flat screens...they were 13k if i remember correctly.
i have a magazine at work thet features about 5 companies that are manufacturing hybrid boats, high end stuff though, wont be long
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I can see a electric or a hybrid in places where you are regulated and have to use one but if not, they simply are NOT "green". Anyone who thinks this has been scammed!! There's no regenerative braking which is the key to energy savings in cars/trucks/train locos. Then there's the "cradle to grave" natural resources needed to build one of them!!!


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