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Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

and the talent pool in the job market is the best in years.



Now is a great time to hire if you have the work to support it. There are many talented people out there wasting away.

I do worry when business does pick up that the talent will not be there and we will find ourselves trying to retrain.

I know I wouldn't recommend any young kids to go in the direction of manufacturing, engineering.
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what can be done to spur new business or create jobs?
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That is the question of the hour! The best way to come up with ideas is brainstorming with the right group of people. Coming up with new products is always great but there may be demand on something that already exists that needs more competition.

what ever each of us does, being able to employ at least yourself and possibly more is the goal. That way there is money to spend! Does that make sense?
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something that wears out every 4 or 5 years? 3 in the drive? something most have to finance? its a renewable source of income, unlike a house, once its built its built.
it makes sense to me
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Adding value by making a raw material useful is the only real way for a society to create wealth.

Insuring mortgages isn't in this group!

The wall street types are just stealing other people's money, they are like leeches.

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as in the logging industry, they finally figured out that they better plant new sapplings, its is a renewable source of income
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My freinds bread & butter is repair & fabrication of logging equipment. He say's a logger can f-up an anvil with a rotten banana.
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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

Adding value by making a raw material useful is the only real way for a society to create wealth.



The US needs manufacturing to keep everyone busy and prosperous! It's time to bring it back!
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I agree
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bottem line, tag shop and purchase US products whenever possible, sometimes its impossible.
if you are dead against american cars, go test drive one and compare, I think you'll be surprised
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When a company goes bankrupt, should workers be off of work still making their same paycheck week after week? That sh*t has to stop. It's no wonder Chrysler filed bankruptcy! These unions are raping companies. Now I hear that salaried personnel are only collecting unemployment during this restructuring period. That makes sense to me. Just my observation.

I am happy to hear that Ford is not taking any money from the Government. They must being doing something right.
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first good news I've heard in a long time....Toyoyta posts a 4.4 billion dollar loss....
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Chrysler parking lot at 8:30 in the morning
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Chrysler parking lot in the morning
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8.30 in the morning... Either your camera or you are not telling the truth...

But anyway, it's a shame to see that parking empty.
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actually it appears as it was 10 minutes before 8:00 in the morning, besides they use to run three shifts and the lot was never empty
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

what can be done to spur new business or create jobs?


Man! Have you guys not heard what Greg (Buffalo) has been screaming?!?! FAIRTAX

I know you want brackets, Eric, but the FairTax does not work that way. Can you imagine the checkout girl at the grocery store asking you how much money you make so she knows how much tax to charge you??? That is just rediculous. If you want to stimulate business, cut all taxes for doing business int he US. When businesses prosper, they hire more workers. Those workers buy cars, eat out, just like you explained Eric, trickle down. I do not understand how the current administration figures that they can save us from our current econemy by raising taxes. Even taxing the rich is stupid. They are the ones creating jobs. And, I know what you are going to say, but I don't care. The rich need/want to make a certain amount of money, so if you tax them a bunch, what are they going to do? Lay off a few people to cover the new tax you just levied against them. This is not that hard.

Think about it this way, Eric. If your company did not have to pay any taxes, how much more money would you have to play with? Maybe you could lower your prices to attract new business and then hire a new mechanic to support the new business and so on and so on. It really is that simple.

Sorry, I will shut up now.
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What's up with stories showing up on Drudge early and then disappearing? 2 big stories in 2 days...poof. I wonder why they go poof?!!?

1 of those stories was this morning about Obama wanting to double the money spent to collect taxes...
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Brackets on income, straight sales tax across the board, lets say 10%.
2 things are certain my friends, taxes and death, in my eyes it is a privlidge to drive in this country and pay taxes in this country...the first pothole you guys hit on a federal interstate, you would blame the government, the governments source of income is taxes, fck you hand the old lady $100.00 bill and dont think twice about.
this country is what it is because of taxation.
now that Chrysler is gone in our city, so is the tax base, shty schools, snow on the streets, no leave pick up, no rec center
taxes are a part of life....Chrysler is not gone because of taxation its gone because no one was buying. thats the way it works. these companies close and the revenue from them goes along with it, how do you make up the revenue? from the city all the way up to the federal government
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Now I got 'ya...tell me WHY people aren't buying.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

   shty schools, snow on the streets, no leave pick up, no rec center

I have been paying taxes for the last 35 years and still have (or do not have) these listed items. Guy with a tractor down the street moves the snow off the road, if he is bored. I have to haul my own leaves off. I pass Rec Centers in the high end neighborhoods or in towns that are too far away.

So are you saying my taxes should be lower than yours ?? I bet they ain't....
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i pay my share, dont like it but i do, one reason people are not buying is because the banks are not lending money, here is a good example, my family got pizza every friday night and i told the wife to lay off the pizza's for a few months, that was 100.00 per month. i quit going to lunch everyday brought in a grill and cook at work, that saves probably 150.00 a month.....why am i not buying, im doing it to survive. but now the pizza joint is hurting and my local eatery ishurting
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If you paid a little less, you could spend a little more.

I'm surprised you aren't worried about the dihydrogen monoxide...
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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

I'm surprised you aren't worried about the dihydrogen monoxide...


Watch out as Greg is testing all of our knowledge here! BTW, I had to google it!!!!

"The dihydrogen monoxide hoax involves listing negative effects of water under an unfamiliar scientific name, then asking individuals to help control the seemingly dangerous substance. The hoax is designed to illustrate how the lack of scientific knowledge and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears.[1] Dihydrogen monoxide, shortened to DHMO, is a scientific name for water that, while technically correct, is almost never used."


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Doggone it Pete, Eric is exactly who I went fishing for!   LOL

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We know that we will always have to pay taxes and like everything else we buy, taxes have gone up too. Because of what is happening in this country, I agree that taxes will need to come down. It just feels like we are going backwards as a nation about 20-30 years. Since pay scales are dropping, everything else will have to follow suite.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

Chrysler parking lot in the morning


Eric, where do you live? We have the Belvidere Assembly Plant (Chrysler) about 20 minutes away from our house. I assume the parking lot looks the same here. Sad, but makes me mad that all the union workers are still getting a pay check. Salaried people are all collecting unemployment.
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I agree with buying American until the fairing for my Road King is over $1,000 less and the quality is good from Hong Kong. I am rubenesque and can't buy a shirt to support a sport team (or Ski Nautique for that matter)in anything over 2x unless it comes from   Hong Kong. If they can supply the product for 1/2 price or just supply the product what's a person to do. I do have a Kenticky Ford truck, Millwake Harley, Illinois, John Deere, Californis,and a Florida CorrectCraft, so I try when I can.
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Im in Aurora Ohio, many friends from the stamping plant.
its a double edged sword, its the competition that drives the price.
at one time the fairing may have been $500.00 which is reasonable, now you got a company that can make it for less, so the 10,000 of these $500.00 fiarings arnt selling anymore because you can buy them for $250.00 from China, it hurts the company's bottem line and all its employees, to compensate for the shortfall they have to raise the price to $1000.00.
you need the same volume or you have to raise the price. now the hong congers see this and say they are getting $1000.00 for these fairings, instead of $250.00 lets charge them $750.00 and they will still buy.
the same philosophy works in the auto industry.
thats why i said in a post if we stuck to the plan, cars would be 12,000 today insted of $25,000
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