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Scott did you do like snobsessed suggested and put a little fuel directly into the carb. It should fire right up and that should be enough to get the fuel pump working on it own. You might have to do this a few times before there's fuel pressure. Better hurry up it'a almost time to winterize it!!
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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:

Scott did you do like snobsessed suggested and put a little fuel directly into the carb. It should fire right up and that should be enough to get the fuel pump working on it own. You might have to do this a few times before there's fuel pressure. Better hurry up it'a almost time to winterize it!!


Alan,
Ohh yea, trying both fuel and starter fluid.
That seems to be what it's almost kicking on.
But I'm guessing carb, hard line down to pump, and into filter has completely dried out?
We had disconnected the hard line from carb and squrted a little fluid in the line, bumped ignition and it squirted, so I'm guessing pump is working.

Can someone tell me if I'm right -
Pumping throttle doesn't actually work the pump itself.
Engine needs to run in order for pump to pull fuel?

My next thought is to disconnect hard line again. Pour some fuel down from there, prime Filter thru top screw vent holes, and then try some air pressure (like someone mentioned) to see if it'll push fuel full all the way from tank to carb?
I'm hoping that if entire line is primed, and it kicks, the fuel will flow.
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Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

This may sound dumb, but do you have a fuel shut-off?


No shut-off on these things that I ever knew of.
Always wondered how you go about changing the fuel filter - Pinched line?
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Fill as much of the lines and filter with gas as you can. If the fuel pump is still good, the gas should make it to the engine.

Getting a decent battery as mentioned several times will certainly help as well. Starting - Not RV/deep cycle.

Lay off the starting fluid. It's a strong solvent that washes the oil off the cylinder walls. Too much and you'll end up with a low compression engine. Stick with squirting some gas down the carb.


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Originally posted by NAUTI84 NAUTI84 wrote:

Originally posted by BuffaloBFN BuffaloBFN wrote:

This may sound dumb, but do you have a fuel shut-off?


No shut-off on these things that I ever knew of.


On our 88s there is a valve going in to the Fram housing.



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Originally posted by NAUTI84 NAUTI84 wrote:

New plugs in.
She's so close to starting. Doesn't seem to be pulling any gas though.
Can someone explain how the fuel system works?
I've tried priming fuel filter, but I don't seem to be getting it up to the carb.


Disconnect the rubber hose at the bottom of the fuel pump and get another rubber hose and connect one end to the fuel pump and the other to a gas can with fresh gas.

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Hope you get to the source of your problem.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Fill as much of the lines and filter with gas as you can. If the fuel pump is still good, the gas should make it to the engine.

Getting a decent battery as mentioned several times will certainly help as well. Starting - Not RV/deep cycle.

Lay off the starting fluid. It's a strong solvent that washes the oil off the cylinder walls. Too much and you'll end up with a low compression engine. Stick with squirting some gas down the carb.


Thanks Peter - will stick with the gas.
Actually pulled the MH's chassis battery (starting not deep cycle).
That did the trick on boosting the cranking power for her (Although even that is getting drawn down after cranking too many times).

Behindtheprop - Might be worth a try with hose to a small tank.
Does anyone know if someplace like the local H.D. carry this type of hose?
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autozone,nappa,pepboys..,scott will you be working on her tonight??
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Originally posted by NEDLUTZ NEDLUTZ wrote:

autozone,nappa,pepboys..,scott will you be working on her tonight??


Hey Brian, No not tonight (Kids Sports have me tied-up the next couple days!)
I did look-up Arthur's number though.
I'll try a couple more of these suggestions and if they don't work, I'll have to give him a call.
I'm sure no mechanic - So when it comes to pulling distributers and dealing with carburators I'm done!
I'm just hoping that it's simply fuel lines that are dry as a bone after sitting for 6 years!
She seems real close to starting though! Got my fingers crossed.
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ok Scott when you get ready to try again give me a call i can prob. swing by to give you a hand to get her going it's more than likely just the fuel from the tank to the carb. it takes a little bit to get the fuel all the way up to the pump..let a lone the carb.
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SHE'S ALIVE & WELL!!!!

Pulled fuel line primed from carb back to filter.
Primed filter thru top vent holes.
Lots of sips of gas thru carb.
Then she finally kicked over!

Running SMOOTH!
Ran thru about (4) trash barrels of water and starts every time with a turn of the key. Perfect oil pres and op.temp.

Thanks to everyone who walked me thru this!
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Been watching this thread for quite a long time. Very cool That you finally got her running.
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Glad you got it started.
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Sweet! This has been a very interesting thread, espcially since you have the 351 Ford. Curious after all that sitting if she was gonna fire again. Glad you got her running... What a beautiful sound....
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I love a happy ending! Good work.
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Sweet! This has been a very interesting thread, espcially since you have the 351 Ford. Curious after all that sitting if she was gonna fire again. Glad you got her running... What a beautiful sound....


Grabbed a beer and was sitting there checking everything out as it ran.
Daughter comes out and says "Dad are you just gonna sit and listen to the engine all afternoon?"
I said "Yeah"   
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Originally posted by NAUTI84 NAUTI84 wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Sweet! This has been a very interesting thread, espcially since you have the 351 Ford. Curious after all that sitting if she was gonna fire again. Glad you got her running... What a beautiful sound....


Grabbed a beer and was sitting there checking everything out as it ran.
Daughter comes out and says "Dad are you just gonna sit and listen to the engine all afternoon?"
I said "Yeah"   


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Scott, glad to hear you got your boat running again.
Now, get out there and ski it quick before you have to winterize it
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Yea and he got that one for sale. If I was in search of a CC, that one there would be top on my list. Thats sharp looking boat.
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Scott, glad to hear you got your boat running again.
Now, get out there and ski it quick before you have to winterize it


Thanks Brad!
Sure nice to hear it running again!
That cold weather will be here before we know it.
Added the "For Sale" accessory to her, but still not 100% sure on letting her go.
Getting her cleaned up and taking some new pics to add today.
The more time I spend working on her again, the tougher it gets, so we'll see how it goes.
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Great thread!! Congatulations.

I am getting ready to go through the same thing on a boat that has been stored in doors for the last 17 years but the motor has been turned every 3- 6 months with drops of oil in each cylinder.   

Hope I can report the same success here in a week or so.
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Originally posted by Salty Salty wrote:

Great thread!! Congatulations.

I am getting ready to go through the same thing on a boat that has been stored in doors for the last 17 years but the motor has been turned every 3- 6 months with drops of oil in each cylinder.   

Hope I can report the same success here in a week or so.


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Originally posted by NAUTI84 NAUTI84 wrote:

Originally posted by Salty Salty wrote:

Great thread!! Congatulations.

I am getting ready to go through the same thing on a boat that has been stored in doors for the last 17 years but the motor has been turned every 3- 6 months with drops of oil in each cylinder.   

Hope I can report the same success here in a week or so.


Good Luck!
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How about a decent battery!


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Originally posted by NAUTI84 NAUTI84 wrote:


Good Luck!
Patience is the key!

How about a decent battery!



You da man Peter!

I even gave it one more try today after charging it for a week (ya I'm a stubborn Scot!), result = Nada!
That sucker is dead!

Thanks again for all the help!

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After seeing how good she still looks and sounds, who knows maybe she won't be going anywhere, and will make it to next year's reunion
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Thats a sharp looking boat... Beautiful!!
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After seeing how good she still looks and sounds, who knows maybe she won't be going anywhere, and will make it to next year's reunion


Now you're talkin' Scott....after all the years you've owned her (over 20) you'll surely miss her if you let her go.

See ya at a Reunion!

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