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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cphase Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-28-2013 at 10:20pm
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I don't know how you did it but Thank you... oops.. I see the insert link button up there now!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kapla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-28-2013 at 11:43pm
you need the old airguide to do the work?
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Yes, I will install the unit into your speedometer.

Ahhh, Argentina.. I see. If you wish to take advantage of the special and install yourself that is okay. I can hold off shipping to you and supply an install kit when I get it worked out. Or you can use your current frame and I will walk you through as much as I currently know.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote storm34 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January-29-2013 at 12:14pm
Guessing you can do them for different faces, but how about surface mount units? Sorry if this question was covered earlier.
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Yes, the conversion should fit any Airguide speedometer.
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I have added more information on the GPS conversion:

Here

And Here

We also now have a form for questions and quotes:
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you link just takes us to this thread.
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arg.. I don't understand these links I guess...

http://www.classicboatwork.com/classicparts/gauges/airguide/agr/agr.html

http://www.classicboatwork.com/classicparts/gauges/airguide/gps/gpsretro.html

http://www.classicboatwork.com/form/gpsform.html

Sorry about that... Dean
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Originally posted by ClassicBoatwork ClassicBoatwork wrote:

arg.. I don't understand these links I guess...


Yeah...still needs a little work

Here you go.

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Air Guide to GPS info

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hollywood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February-19-2013 at 2:05pm
Dean, go ahead and quote Larry's post above, you'll see where everything fits.
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Thank you!
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I think I see my errant ways... I added the quotes to my link and your software does that automatically.
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I have finished my first pair of GPS retro-fits.
I took the pair out this morning in our car and they track together great.
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The sweep on the flush-mount only goes to 40mph? I thought it was going to go to at least 47?
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Originally posted by bhectus bhectus wrote:

The sweep on the flush-mount only goes to 40mph? I thought it was going to go to at least 47?


The flush mount pictured is a "fancy" Electro-Speedo....... not a typical flush mount pitot-driven Airguide which has a dial that is calibrated to 50 MPH.
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It looks like the optional electronic speedo from around 1980.
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HW is right on. Wasn't there a set of those on ebay a few weeks ago?

That GPS is tempting. I would like to fill in all the pitot holes on my transom and never have to worry again.
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Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

HW is right on. Wasn't there a set of those on ebay a few weeks ago?

That GPS is tempting. I would like to fill in all the pitot holes on my transom and never have to worry again.


Now that is the right kind of thinking!

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nautic Laugic did a pretty good video on the installation process.
I cringe when he tells you to cut off the nipple on the diaphragm though!!
I have never seen that plastic frame before.   
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So how much are you selling the DIY kit for?
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

It looks like the optional electronic speedo from around 1980.


My 1980 came with the Electronic Speedo, but I replaced it with an Water Pressure Air Guide. I am thinking that 1980 was the only year that this was offered .

Very Cool Stuff.

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More info on the GPS upgrade:
You can see the 'fluidity' of the needle movement on this you-tube video. The video walks thru the Calibration Procedure. For a 5 to 50 MPH gauge, Cal points are sampled starting at 10 MPH, upward every 5 MPH, the last point at 45 (Full Scale minus 5 MPH). The result is an accurate speed report across the full 50 MPH.
http://youtu.be/SwXAfIttEQM
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I am considering a speedometer conversion to GPS as I am too cheap to jump all the way to a Perfect Pass.

Please send current thoughts about an Nautic Logic upgrade.

I prefer an internal GPS receiver. Nautic Logic claims that the internal and external receivers have the same excellent reception. Do you agree?
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You lose the Nautique face on the internal receiver- it comes with a generic one (presumably pre-calibrated). I and several others have run the external receiver version for a while, they work great. Smooth, reliable and great customer service from NauticLaugic. I added a 2nd one this winter.
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If you ski I couldn't imagine not having Perfect Pass. I was hesitant for the longest time until I started skiing other boats with PP/ZO.
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Originally posted by ClassicBoatwork ClassicBoatwork wrote:

I need some input. One of the limitations I am running into for the Airguide retrofit is the total sweep of the needle motor is 315 degrees.
On a 3 to 50 mph dial, like most of you have, the needle has to do one of two things.

1. To reach 50mph the needle comes to rest at 5 mph.
2. If the needle settles at the post or 3 mph it will not quite reach 50 mph, the needle will top out at 47 or 48 mph.

How big of a deal is this? I know if I were calibrating for myself I would let the needle set at the post. I have never had a boat that would actually go 50 mph! Does yours?
The gps will actually read up to 200 mph. The limitation is the scale not being over 315 degrees. It appears that finding a motor that will cover a broader range of degrees is problematical
but I am not certain about this.

In YOUR opinion is this a problem that should be resolved before further development?

Thank you for your input,
Dean


My take is that there's nobody concerned with speeds below 10, but there are quite a few boat owners who travel just below or very close to 50 (my SS will hit 48). I'd rather be able to read high end then hit the post on the low end.
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This thread is 3 years old, not a relevant discussion as the product is already out there.

If you need to read the upper 40's and higher with accuracy, you can go to a 60mph, 80mph or a custom face with a custom scale if you want... the GPS gauge can be calibrated to any scale you'd like. I am running a custom 80mph scale on my BFN... reads accurately into the 60's.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

This thread is 3 years old, not a relevant discussion as the product is already out there. .

Yes, let's just forget about all the new members who have come on since the old post!


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