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8122pbrainard
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More like the spark arrestor that's on your marine engine. |
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KENO
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Not all marine alternators have screens, that's the way Delco does it as mentioned earlier. Others use sealed covers over the brushes to meet USCG standards. Here's a link to ARCO electric showing some of the more popular alternators and how they accomplish meeting the standard. There's also a brief explanation of the testing. Your 67 Nautique won't have screens unless the alternator was replaced with a Delco over the years. If you're wondering if you have a marine alternator, pictures, numbers and some research should tell you Most marine alternators that meet the standard have a tag or other markings that indicate that it meets SAE J1171 specs. but back in 67 that standard wasn't born yet link |
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Thx keno. Makes sense.
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jterr
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Now that I have my new alternator (silver looking) can I paint it?
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KENO
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I suppose you can do whatever you want to I don't think I'd be painting any spark arrestor screens though. |
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jterr
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Decided not to piaint.
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jterr
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A question on ignition. If I change to the electronic module on distributor do I need those resistors mounted on rear of engine?
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8122pbrainard
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John, It depends on who's EI conversion you use. Follow their directions. |
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bfootr
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I just changed my 89 SN to electronic ignition (using Pertronix Ignitor II). Instructions were to bypass the resistor which I did. Works great!
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gt40KS
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I applied a couple of coats of clear engine enamel on all of my 'raw' metal parts, except for the screens as Ken suggested. This keeps them from looking dull and corroded in a couple of years. |
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JCCI
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jterr
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OK I need some advice here..
FYI-The boat I'm working on is a 1983 SN with a PCM 351w. Earlier in a post I found the motor to be a 1994 block. I bought a new Prestolite distributor not paying attention to the year. Now when I started looking for the electronic ignition it is asking for year. Should I just be buying parts as a 83 motor or a 94 motor? Will parts interchange and work? I hope I haven't messed up big time.... |
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KENO
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Don't sweat it JT. That distributor was used up till 86 or so and will drop right into your engine. Don't know what electronic kit you might be looking at but if it's a Pertronix, the part number for the clipdown cap is 91581 for the Ignitor 2 or 1581 for the plain old Ignitor. The Ignitor 2 is an improved version of the original There's not much else that's still available for that distributor these days. And..............you can ditch the ballast resistor{s} like said earlier by bfootr And..............you won't make Pete proud, but that's OK |
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jterr
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Update:
Engine painted and almost back together, still have to rebuild carb. Go GATORS!! |
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GottaSki
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Nice!
I'm getting creative on mine as well |
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
River Rat to Mole |
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KENO
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JT You must be the only person that ever painted his distributor cap to match his oil filter. If that cap came that color, post the part number, I just gotta have one of those |
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8122pbrainard
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KENO
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But I'm a terrible painter and would rather have one made that color. Besides, I'd probably have to touch up the cap if it got chipped and ugly looking Or maybe I'd go and paint the plug wires too. I guess I could stick with black caps and filters and wires |
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jterr
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Thanks Yea the paint came from Wally World and it is Rustoleum. I even got Blue plug wires (didn't know till I opened the box).
If the Distributor cap was black would probably have left the same but that Tan just looked awful |
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gt40KS
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Hmmm... this post has taken an interesting turn. I'm still waiting to hear certain comments from Pete and Ken.
But for the record John, I like what you've done so far |
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JCCI
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jterr
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Just putting on more hoses and seem to have problem-see pic
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jterr
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[QUOTE=KENO] [QUOTE=8122pbrainard]
But I'm a terrible painter and would rather have one made that color. /QUOTE] Send it to me I'll paint it. |
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KENO
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It's a good thing you post pictures JT, since you can notice all kinds of stuff looking at them. In the picture above , my keen finely trained eye can see that your pump isn't ever gonna pump water. Why's that you ask? You have a RH rotation engine and the pump is installed right now for a LH rotation engine since the screw head can't be seen.. If you look at the picture below courtesy of somebody on CCF, you can see the screw head on the pump facing outboard and you can see how the hoses are hooked up and oriented too. That's how your's should be hooked up. Suction on the bottom, discharge on the top and the screw head pointing outboard. Clearance between the pump pulley and the big hose is pretty tight |
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jterr
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Got it, I couldn't tell in my photo (before repaint) the right direction.
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KENO
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Joe Your pump is kinda plain looking , gray and unpainted bronze or is it clear coated cast iron and bronze, you should really do something about that. We'll let Pete pick the color scheme for ya |
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jterr
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Another Question. Should I keep this MSD coil or go back to the original?
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JoeinNY
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Its a coil not a distributor and if it ain't broke I wouldnt fix it |
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jterr
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Thanks I corrected my mind..... this boat and engine is about to blow it |
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jterr
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Forgot about the broken resistor, will engine run/start without it?
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8122pbrainard
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John, Is it broken? It looks like the engine was hooked up to one ballast resistor so, it may be good however the Ohm meter will tell you for sure. Keep in mind as stated previously, you need to follow the wiring directions of the EI conversion you plan on using. |
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jterr
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For now just wanted to crank engine to check out rebuilt carb. I'll get my neighbor over he understands the ohm thing. Thanks |
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