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akabulla ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November-15-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 649 |
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Not sure if your interested in this for your rebuild but this was listed in my area for a fish:
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/2041537243.html |
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Bilge stringers install has started..
I picked up my last set of stringers yesterday from Compsys. They are, of course as perfect as the first set. These where made with Triax instead of biax so they will give me the added stiffness I was looking for. The Install for these where a little more difficult because of there size. Today we where only able to get two of the six installed. Enjoy the pics.... Here is Shawn leveling out one of the stringers ![]() Brian and Shawn Truing it up. ( I am playing Camera Man) ![]() I set the camera on Auto ![]() The Metal piece is the Gas tank jig. We made sure we had clearence for the Tank ![]() ![]() ![]() Of course there is a few more pictures in my photobucket. |
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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looking got John...
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Don Liberman
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Kristof ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-08-2007 Location: Bree, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 3394 |
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I just love these well documented restaurations...
![]() Great work John, keep the pics coming! BTW can you post the link to your photobucket? |
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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Are they actually structual stringers or engine compartment bulk heads? If the stiffeners were removed where the saddle tanks go wouldn't the tanks act as stiffeners and give you more room for fuel. Are the tanks going all the way back to the transom and forward to the front of the engine? Have you figured the capacity of the tanks yet?
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Don Liberman
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Yes they are structual.Not sure about removing the stiffeners, but they are only one inch in hight so its not really much of an issue. The tanks are going to be 8 ft. in lenght and will hold 50.5 GALS aprox. might be a little bit more or less depending on the deck landings that I am putting in. I should be getting those tomorrow so I will know if I have to trim the tank or I can add to it. Project is going good though. I am hoping to have the tanks by Dec. 1st so the deck will hopefully be done by Xmass. John |
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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Sounds good. Maybe I'll have my tanks follow the contour of the hull to get a little more fuel in. Labor is cheep mown here. From the photos and your discription I would say the project is going perfict.
Our boats are working just about every day and I'm having carborator problems with the fish. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and put on fuel injection. |
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Don Liberman
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firefight-n ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-08-2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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hey john what are you using to grind all the paint and stuff off the inside gunwales? Its killing me usinf an air sander!
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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I just pulled those skins off. But for grinding I was using a flap grinding wheel, 40 grit. Home depot has them in 4 inch or 7 inch. |
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firefight-n ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-08-2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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oh yeah i see that now...
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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I was able to get two more sections of stringer in today. These things are huge so it takes some convincing to get them to do what you want. Well not much to say the pictures tell the story.
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2082 |
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Thanks for the detailed pictures and out right documentation on the restore of your Fish. I see you pulled all the liner out, do you plan on reinstaling it in some fashion or changing all together? Reason for the question is we are in the midst of stripping our Fish and re-stringering but was going to pop the deck off the hull to pull the liner, wher as you cut yours out. I did see you made new hatch lids, did you keep your mold for more??
Keep us posted and for me especially when you install your foor. Thanks again. Jody |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Hey Jody, Yeah I am going to reinstall the liner. What I plan on doing is cut the lip that I left on there, grind up the side about 10 inches. Then I was going to glass the liner to the new deck making it all one piece again. Not sure if that makes any sense but I will have pictures of the entire process. As for the hatch molds, yes I have the molds and I can pull what ever you need. I just picked up a Binks B5D chop gun system, it makes life alot eaiser whe doing glass work. John |
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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John, I tried to find information on the Binks B5D chopper gun but had no luck. Is there another number or name for it?
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Try this. http://www.binks.com
plenty of Binks info. |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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firefight-n ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-08-2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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hey john im at work today but took some more pics of the boat and will try to post them tm when i get home... just out of curiousity, what did you end up spending on the chop gun?
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miniorf ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-27-2010 Location: CApe Cod Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Woow really good thread! She coming along great! I to am bring a fish back to life. I just recently picked up the project. Seems were at similar stages. The prior owners replaced the stringers up till the front deck. That area dosn't have any soft spots in that section but I'm afraid of what lies beneath. Did you find significant root under that? In your pictures it looked like it!
I also may be interested in a pair of those big bilge hatch surounds and covers, they look nice. I've started my own thread, so I don't find my self hijacking yours! Check it out. http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20088&PID=248818#248818Once again thanks yall especialy jzarskiI've learned so much about this boat from this thread alone. |
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Well I know I haven't been posting much. I have been crazy busy with planning a wedding and working at mt shop. The weather here in FL hasn't been great either. I will be getting back to the boat on Monday, I hope to have her in a new home for 3 months. I am trying to convince the landlord where my fiberglass shop is to let me rent a space for 3 months to finish this boat. I hope to hear from him later today. Hope everyone had a good thanksgiving.
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firefight-n ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-08-2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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hey john what are your thoughts on the type of glass to use on the floor/deck, should i use the multiple layers of 1808 and a layer of mat on top or just the 1808?? trying to figure out hows the easiest way of getting the floor smooth
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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I am going to use 1708 Biax +-45, with the chop on the back. This is not going to give you a smooth finish but it will give you strenght. Then you can level it from there. Are you ready to put your deck on?? I am getting there, today I put the last piece of stringer in and will do all the cap glass this week. I also got a call from the guy that is making my tank, they will be ready for a dry fit Monday. If they fit right ( I really hope they do) then he said they will be done by Wednesday. I have a few picture but havn't got them off my camera yet, will post them in a hour of so. O yeah and about my post the other day, I did get the boat in its new home for the next 3 months. A nice little 1000 Sq.Ft. warehouse just for my boat. Now I don't have to worry about weather. Waiting for my buddy to open the shop so we can get in.... ![]() Last piece of stringer installed. ![]() ![]() John |
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firefight-n ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: March-08-2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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Man John I can not believe how nice your boat is lookin! im jealous lol you are really doing an unbelievable job! Pretty work neways my friend and i have been setting everything up getting ready for the floor and fish box to go in. we were glassing some more braces on the transom area today just for that extra stregnth. bracket next week hopefully.
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Post some pics, I would love to see the progress.
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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Jonh your boat is looking awesome. Keep the pics. comming
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Don Liberman
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Gas tank dry fit.....
Today I picked up the gas tanks. Eight feet looks big when you are standing next to it. ![]() They are not done but we wanted to fit them before it gets welded all up. If something needs to be changed, now is the time. ![]() They fit perfect, now I just need to figure out where the fills, vents and pickups are all gonna go. I have somewhat of am idea just need to do the math and see if it will all fit. ![]() ![]() Now I need some advice. I have an option to move the tanks about 12-15 inches forward. Would you all suggest I do it or leave them as far back to the transome as I can?? |
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2082 |
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Are you planing on installing cav plates (trim Tabs)? or anything else on the transom that wil require thru bolting? If so I would recomend leaving enough work room behind the tanks to access the hull bottom and low transom area.
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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I think you need to move them forward. I think 6-8" would be plenty. You will need to put an equalizer line between the two tanks and that would have to go on the end and as low as possable. Do the tanks have any baffels in them? I would think you will need trim tabs. They look nice.....
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Don Liberman
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Cool boat, nice detailed thread, and great work! Can't wait to come down and cruise to the Bahamas with you
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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jzarski ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-12-2010 Status: Offline Points: 180 |
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Why do you think I will need the equalizer line? My plan was to just run two seperate pickups.... Is this not a good idea? I will set it up so both tanks can be turned on or off. The tanks have two baffels in each. |
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tuna_tugger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: February-28-2010 Location: Los Cabos, MX Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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With a large enough equalizer between the two tanks you will only need one fill point. Also it will keep the boat in ballance. With tanks of that shape you won't be able to put a fuel gague in them so a flow meter on your plotter or sounder will be the only way you will know how much fuel you have burned. My experance is the simpler you can keep it the better off you are. What are the tanks made of? If they are allum. you should either epoxy coat them or pay special attention on how you mount them or they will corrode. You may think they will be sealed in but you will always have condensation.
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Don Liberman
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