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    Posted: December-16-2008 at 8:07am
I really should know better since I've been driving diesels since the late 70's but this year I kept putting off (forgetting) getting the fuel conditioner. Compounding the problem is the station I typically go to doesn't pump that much so I suspect the diesel isn't the true winter blend yet. Yup, yesterday was our first real cold (4*) of the year and going home it gelled up on me. With plenty of pissed off drivers behind me going so slow, I made it 5 miles and within a block of my local Napa. I ran in and got the "emergency" conditioner. It stayed running so I didn't need to pull the fuel filter. I'll get it in the garage today and change out the filter just to be on the safe side.

Cold climate diesel owners, don't put it off like I did!!!


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All diesel here has to be safe till -20°C by law... No need for conditioner here...
Most diesel fuels are conditioned till -27°C.
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Kristof,
Wish it was the same over here but the low temp limit would need to be lowered in most of the areas. -20*C is only -4*F. We do have winter blends but don't think it's regulated. This first cold snap it always the worst. As mentioned, if the station doesn't move lots of diesel, then it's existing summer diesel in the tank is only partially winterized with the first load from the refinery.

What really gets me this year, is diesel hasn't come down in price like gas has. Of course this time of the year prices are typically higher due to the demand. Lots of people in the northeast still heat with it. Bruce, are you still on oil heat?


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Pete, I am on oil and will be as long as I'm in this house. Heating oil has dropped from $4.50 to $1.89 since the summer (advertised in the paper today). My last fill was $2.09 in November. Diesel at the pump is high $2s. Your right that it hasn't come down as much as everything else. Wonder why?


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Bruce,
I paid $2.75 last week for diesel. Remember when it was always cheaper than regular gas!! I hear that's it's the new EPA regulations on the lower sulfur content??? Just like them playing around with the gas, they are doing the same with the diesel - the new diesel is blended with ether animal or soy fats helping them reach the lower sulfur content. The animal fat is the real problem in cold weather. More additive for the consumer to buy and more $$ for the chemical companies.


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Thanks for the reminder, your cold weather just got here yesterday. it was 48 when i got up and 18 when i got home from work. Luckily we are along the toll road here and the locals pump a lot of fuel. Diesel is slightly under 2.50 here but ive been driving the expedition as gas was 1.39 locally the last couple weeks on gas war wedendays.

I had to put a couple new glow plugs in mine as it was getting really hard to start even around 35 degrees...
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I heard that higher diesel prices here have a lot to do with increasing demand for clean diesel overseas. More and more of total production is the clean we aren't using here yet, so more people are using the smaller amount of dirty diesel here.
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Just one of the many reasons I'll never own a diesel again,don't miss those days. Back then VW told you that you could add 10% gas to stop that problem.Is it not advised today? Always had trouble getting it going at work.Looking back I should have just let it run all day.What was the worst that could happen?,catch fire or stolen,then it would have been someonelses problem.
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Boy...the fun we miss by living down south....

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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

Boy...the fun we miss by living down south....

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John,
Well, down in the south with the heat and humidity, you have other problems with diesel. The good boat doc called me yesterday and reminded me of the slime/mold that grows in the diesel. With gelling, usually all it takes is adding the additive and at worst changing the fuel filter. With the slime, it's cleaning/purging out the complete system. Tank, lines, filter, injectors and pump.

Be carefull down there that you don't get moldy!!!


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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

Boy...the fun we miss by living down south....

I'm sure you do John... I'm sure you do.
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I'd say JBear's got the right idea, south in winter, north in summer.

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Thanks Bruce....works for us. But me and Patti are here year-round...does get kinda hot and humid in mid summer. Just the way we like it. Got enough "cold and wet" while I was working.

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Im sitting here with 2 pairs of socks, thermal undies, thermal shirt, and im still f-in freezing
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Flannel lined jeans... they really work Eric.


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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

Im sitting here with 2 pairs of socks, thermal undies, thermal shirt, and im still f-in freezing


Well there's the problem brunstuckian...no pants

Plenty of warm here...you need to close up shop and head down for a visit..me and Eddie will show ya a good time.

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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

Im sitting here with 2 pairs of socks, thermal undies, thermal shirt, and im still f-in freezing


Eric,
You've got the nice IR heat in the shop, no heat in your office? Better get out there and do some work and warm up at the same time!


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I wrote that from home Pete, at work I use the computer in the back, I have All-Data and i am constantly on it trying to figure crap out, lately Ive been keeping the shop heat at 60 or so, unless they are painting. even at 60 i have a boat under the radient and you sweat your but off inside of it. it works well getting the moisture out of the boats...it still sometimes takes a month or so though. the best way i find though is the dehumidifier for a week or so covered.
I have reasons for wearing all the clothes and not for filling my vehicles up with gas, its in case I break down on the freeway and have to walk or if i sell the car i dont want the buyer to get a full tank of gas, sure as sht last time i filled one up at 4.00 a gallon.....it sold lol

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