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Every time I change oil I do a mess, I feel like a redneck. I start with the manual pump through the dipstick, but after 100 strokes under the sun only 1 quart is out!!! I do have the drain hose but the drain plug in the hull is frozen so I canīt use it.
I wanted to get the vaccum pump as the one on skidim (but is not available here in argetina). So my question is have anyone used the pump that attaches to a drill? Is it good or is it junk? I ussually end placing a bag under the oil pan and unhooking the oil drain... Imagine the mess...In the bilge and carpet when trying to get it out... At least my carpet is dark so any oil spill gets easily match with it... I know you gonna hit me hard for this!!!! So start shooting on me!!!! |
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TRBenj
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Sebastian, youve gotta get that drain plug unstuck! I cant imagine not having one- what if your boat fills up with water while youre on the trailer? My plug is out any time the boat isnt in the water.
I dont have the oil drain kit on my older boats- I use the Suck Up from SkiDIM to pull the oil out of the dipstick hole and it works well. It goes much faster if the engine has been run up to temp! |
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kapla
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I was planning on making a new plug with a throug hull but still wondering if a good idea... regarding the old plug is hard to get any tool there to try to unbolt it...any tip will be appreciated...
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79nautique
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it's a pipe thread and seals pretty good there should be a square section above the threads and where the t-handle's base starts, grab an adjustable wrench and you should be able to unscrew it.
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Its just a T-handle, correct? If you cant get it off by hand, get some leverage on it. Pipe wrench, vice grips- anything. It should come loose if you hit it. Spray some penetrating oil on it first and let it soak for a few days.
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kapla
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Yes is that square head plug there, no t handle... Its a tight spot to work on...
I have to solve this asap..... |
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other thing about this I how firm is all the assy fixed to the hull.. I wouldn`t like the plug to come loose with all the thread housing, causing hull damage..
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Yep, gotta work on that hull drain. If you don't have the T-handle most of us are used to, you might try tapping a cold chisel into it at the shallowest angle you can work with. The only thing is that you'll probably have to replace the plug afterwards.
There is a cheap drill operated pump available here for about $6 US. The one I'm familiar with is set up for garden hose fittings so you'd have to make connecting fittings. Get the girls back in the boat and it might just loosen up! |
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Good idea there!!! i`ll try that one and let you know the results!!!1 |
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79nautique
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sounds like someone has mismatched the threads a stright pipe thread t-handle/orginal with standard tapered pipe thread plug most likely galvanized at that doesn't go well witht he brass housing. On mine the base/housing was bolted to the hull yours might be glassed, in that case, cranking on it to hard might cause problems down the road.
don't recomend the chissle trick that's just going to make it worse by expanding it and locking it even tighter. |
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Only if it's tapped in the wrong direction! LOL All I'm saying is that I've seen a properly applied thong move mountains. |
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Cris from what i see housing seems to the bolted from the outside bottom of the boat. From inside you can see the screws locked with the little nuts...
Maybe I can unscrew all the housing along with the plug and benck work at home..... Then reinstall everything using a good sealand adhesive... |
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BuffaloBFN
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Better look underneath...I bet those screws are bedded in the glass(below the gel). Mine has the same set-up...I think the screws are in the threaded fitting and not available from below.
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My old 64 doesnt even have a drain plug. I use the cheapo pump that chucks in a drill. It can still be a mess, holding the drill and keeping two hoses from flopping around. Make sure the container your pumping into is large enough for all the oil. ( I use two, one-gallon plastic containers)
Warm engine definately helps, I put a bunch of old cardboard and carpet scraps over the boat carpet. I dont care how careful, seems like theres alway a little oil spillage. I like Gregs idea...get more pics of the girls in the boat..... Not sure it does any good on the plug, but sure warms up OUR winter days! |
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The chisel meathod is only meant to be a 'polite' impact wrench...don't use a BFH!
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C'mon man...if he wraps a thong aroung the fitting in the right direction... |
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Kapla you should have something like this in your 90. It is exactly the same as my 89.
Thru Hull & T handle bung It also had a square plug frozen in the thru hull fitting like yours. It was impossible to get it unfrozen while still attached to hull. Remove the thru hull fitting just 4 s/s bolts with nyloc nuts on mine. This makes it much easier to hold the fitting in the vice and get that frozen plug out. They had used a galvinised plug which had frozen real solid needed to apply a bit of heat to get it out. I ordered only the t handle fitting then as the threads in the thru hull fitting were fine. Like TRBenj said when ever the boat is out of the water the bung should be out. It drains any water and we know the pre 93 hulls like to be kept as dry as possible. |
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Greg,
Thong move mountains...Great image! |
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You took the words right outa my mouth Quinner. Gotta be some sort of record...so many opurtunities in one thread.
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LMAO!
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Very good iīm still crying Back to the boat I got the thruhull out... it was easy, I just needed help from below to hold the screw in order to prevent it to spin with the nut when unbolting..... Then whith a bench morse and a good adjustable plier (stilson here? the ones used on plumbing) we got it out. this was mounted the plug head warped thats why it was impossible to get it out... and this are diferent 3/4 bronze plug I bougth to replace the old one... i'm not sure which one is best.... the old one is solid and the new are hollow... |
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No T handles available here... I was thinking on getting the one from skidim but shipping and customs will kill for that.. and this plugs i got here all cost me $5...
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Sebastian, for god sakes get a proper one with a T-handle so you dont have to go through this whole thing again next time!
Lewy linked to the $30 part from SkiDIM above. |
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yeap they sell the t handle for $9..
i will try at local parts here and if not I get the one from skidim... |
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Seb,
You should have a local welding shop down there. Have them braze or weld on a T handle to one of the new plugs you bought. Bilge drains don't need to be wrench tight. There's very little pressure on them so the T handles work great hand tight. Brass to brass can be TIG welded. Bronze to bronze depending on the exact alloy should be brazed. |
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Yes I was also thinking about doing that...
And one more when putting the housing back to the hull, which adhesive sealant is recomendable the 3m 5200? |
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i think the housing is brass, are the bronze plugs ok or should i get brass plugs?
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If you're going to have a T handle welded on, ask your welder which he would prefer. It's been a few years since I welded the brass windshield brackets together for my Atom but I seem to remember the Tig setting are the same as aluminum. AC current and continuous high frequency. Yes on the 5200 for bedding the housing back in. |
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Brass is a copper bronze alloy?
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